Why The Church Needs Teachers || Cultural Catalysts

The Kris Vallotton Podcast

Kris Vallotton

Religion & Spirituality

4.8 • 2.6K Ratings

🗓️ 17 November 2025

⏱️ 68 minutes

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In this week's episode of Cultural Catalysts, join Kris and Banning as they welcome Dann Farrelly, Bethel Church's lead teacher and Dean of Bethel School of Supernatural Ministry with over 34 years of ministry experience. Dann shares his unique perspective as a teacher within a prophetic environment, offering wisdom on maintaining biblical integrity while embracing supernatural ministry. The conversation explores the delicate balance between revelatory preaching and scriptural accuracy, with Dann highlighting the importance of knowing context before taking creative license with Scripture. Together, they discuss the pressure many ministers feel to be novel or entertaining rather than nourishing, and how healthy teaching provides essential grounding for prophetic ministry. Dann shares how demonstrating how good theology contributes to sound mental health. Whether you're a teacher, prophet, or simply someone who loves God's Word, this candid and often humorous conversation offers invaluable insights on how the five-fold ministry gifts work together to build a healthy church. Connect with Kris Vallotton: Website: https://www.krisvallotton.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kvministries/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kvministries/ X: https://x.com/kvministries Additional Resources by Kris Vallotton: https://shop.bethel.com/collections/kris-vallotton About Kris Vallotton: Kris Vallotton is the Senior Associate Leader of Bethel Church, Redding, and is the Co-Founder of Bethel School of Supernatural Ministry (BSSM) and Spiritual Intelligence Institute. He is also the Founder and President of Moral Revolution and a sought-after international conference speaker. Kris and his wife, Kathy, have trained, developed, and pastored prophetic teams and supernatural schools all over the world.

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0:00.0	Hi, Chris Valleton here. Welcome to my podcast, where I hope to inspire you to transform the world
0:09.5	within you and transform the world around you. I hope you enjoyed today's episode.
0:15.3	Hi, welcome to the cultural catalyst where we teach you how to live fully alive, co-labor with God,
0:19.7	and change the world. I'm your host, Chris Vallaton. And today, again, for the second time in a row, I guess third time in row, Banning Leipshire. Yes, we should play the theme, rocky theme right here. Yes, a bucket list. I also think that you're my co-host. If I've been on three times, I think it shifts to where you're my co-host. This is the problem when we work together. You always think you should be in charge of everything. That's probably the problem. And he is in charge of Jesus' culture. We need to do a whole podcast on power struggles. Power struggle. We should. What do you do when there's two lions in the same room in ministry? You're supposed to be yielding, bro. Oh my gosh. And in our last talk, we talked about, we've been talking about the five-fold ministry. We're going to bring on a teacher. We had a pastor. They know those pastor guys. We had Gabe on. We intimidated him for him for sure. You put the reel up of Gabe and we were kind of both of us were mocking and making fun of him and the comments were like, let the guy speak. Let it finish a sentence, please. I know. Like as if Gabe was the victim in all of this, you know. You know what? If he wants to talk, he needs to just be a man. Bring yourself more. Bring yourself more. Not my fault.
1:33.2	You can't, you can't be a weenie on this show. You got to, you got to step in on the cultural
1:38.9	Catalyst podcast. The fivefold is about, just don't be a sissy. Exactly. Even a sissy, you need to go somewhere else.
1:46.5	Go on one of those other churches.
1:47.9	There's the secret to our success right there.
1:50.2	What success?
1:50.9	Yeah, that's called health.
1:52.7	Yeah, our success.
1:54.4	We are measuring our success ourselves.
1:56.8	You may not think we're successful, but we know we are.
2:00.6	Yeah, 100%. For sure. Yeah. So, but we know we are. Yeah, 100%.
2:01.5	For sure.
2:02.1	Yeah.
2:02.7	So, hey, before we get Dan in involved here, you have any teachers on five-fold teachers in your church?
2:13.1	Yeah, probably.
2:14.1	Yeah, Michael Brodor.
2:15.7	I would Michael Brodor be in the Michael Brodor's there he would
2:18.8	be the guy that would really be filling that thing of like they care about theology yeah like
2:24.3	really do that and I would say both me who's at the top and then Becky who is Becky Johnson
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