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Culture & Christianity: The Allen Jackson Podcast

Why the Church Must Reclaim Imagination and Storytelling [Featuring Eric Newman & Candace Lee]

Culture & Christianity: The Allen Jackson Podcast

Pastor Allen Jackson

Christianity, Society & Culture, Religion & Spirituality

4.9884 Ratings

🗓️ 5 June 2026

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

What if the greatest battle facing the next generation is the battle for their imaginations? In this episode of Culture & Christianity, Pastor Allen Jackson sits down with storytellers Eric Newman and Candace Lee to discuss their new book, George Goodwin, Dragon Slayer, and why courage, imagination, and identity matter now more than ever. Together, they unpack the cultural defeatism affecting young people, the dangers of “safe spaces” without resilience, and why Christians must raise "dragon slayers" instead of passive spectators. This conversation is a powerful reminder that faith was never meant to shrink back in fear—it was meant to overcome.

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0:00.0

We really do think that the imagination is that bridge between the heart and the mind.

0:05.0

And the enemy really comes at us in our minds.

0:08.0

You know, Romans 12 wanted to not be conformed to the pattern of this world,

0:11.0

but be transformed by the renewing of your mind.

0:14.0

You know, that is the imagination.

0:15.0

You know, faith begins as imagination.

0:17.0

Doesn't that suggest we should have imaginations that are good?

0:20.0

The destruction came because we had completely surrendered our imagination to evil.

0:24.2

What if we surrendered it to the Holy Spirit?

0:26.2

If you look around at the world, it's easy to see that there are dragons.

0:29.5

The people who are going to slay those dragons are playing on Little League teams,

0:33.3

and they're sitting in Sunday school classrooms, and they're in the backseat of our car.

0:37.0

And this really is a story to plant that seed in their imaginations,

0:41.6

that there is a dragon that they were born to slay.

1:04.1

I'm going to say. Well, welcome to culture in Christianity.

1:05.8

I'm excited today.

1:08.1

I get to introduce you to some people I think will be new to you.

1:16.5

You know, our goal is to get our faith outside the walls of the church. So we are constantly trying to introduce you to ideas and people with God stories that are making an impact in our world. And today, they're not new friends to me, but they're going to

1:23.0

be new friends to you. Candice Lee and Eric Newman, I guess I'm going to introduce you as authors,

1:28.4

but you wear many hats. Yes, we have over the years. You have done a lot more than just

1:32.7

author books, but New York Times bestselling authors, their new book is George Godwin, the

1:38.7

Dragon Slayer. And they're going to tell us about it. I'll show it to you and I'll show it to you again.

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