Why the Biggest Threat in 2022 May Not Be COVID (with Jon Favreau)

In the Bubble with Andy Slavitt

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🗓️ 24 January 2022

⏱️ 64 minutes

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With the defeat of the Freedom to Vote Act, Andy turns his attention to the threat to our democracy with Crooked Media co-founder and Pod Save America co-host Jon Favreau. They discuss just how real the threat remains, how a Big Lie scenario could play out in 2024, and what we can do to prevent that from happening. Plus, what Jon, a former Obama speechwriter, wants to hear the Biden Administration communicate to the American people about the pandemic. Keep up with Andy on Twitter @ASlavitt and Instagram @andyslavitt. Follow Jon @jonfavs on Twitter. Joining Lemonada Premium is a great way to support our show and get bonus content. Subscribe today at bit.ly/lemonadapremium. Support the show by checking out our sponsors! Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: https://lemonadamedia.com/sponsors/ Throughout the pandemic, CVS Health has been there, bringing quality, affordable health care closer to home—so it’s never out of reach for anyone. Because at CVS Health, healthier happens together. Learn more at cvshealth.com. Check out these resources from today’s episode: Listen to Jon on Pod Save America: https://crooked.com/podcast-series/pod-save-america/ Read this opinion piece in The Washington Post about Trump, Arizona, and what could happen in 2024: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/01/17/trump-arizona-election-threat-democracy/ Learn more about the Electoral Count Act and the next steps on voting rights: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/voting-rights-electoral-count-act-next-steps/ Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/ Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165 Stay up to date with us on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia. For additional resources, information, and a transcript of the episode, visit lemonadamedia.com/show/inthebubble. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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1:12.3	Thanks for joining in the bubble. This is Andy Slavitt. A really interesting show
1:16.5	for you today. Let me start out by talking a bit about the state of affairs with
1:22.9	Omicron. Omicron is on the decline. It probably started before we knew it was on
1:28.6	the decline. It's not on the decline everywhere. The full effects won't be felt for a
1:32.1	little while and everyone wants to know what comes next. It's got me thinking a
1:38.5	little bit about what our perceptions are and what normal should be and what
1:47.0	should happen next. There's a few people who are out there writing and saying
1:51.2	things like the pandemic's over. The risks are down. We're in the dynamic stage
1:56.6	back to life, etc. Everybody's got an opinion and I suppose everybody's tired.
2:03.6	It reminded me of something that I heard when I talked to this guy named Baruch
2:09.3	Fishoff, early on in the pandemic. He's kind of a pandemic sociologist. The fact
2:15.5	that there are such a thing is I never knew before. He said something which
2:20.6	has got me thinking recently, which is a little bit of the fact that people
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