From the ECLU, this is at Liberty.

I'm Molly Kaplan, your host.

This past weekend, the National Board of the ECLU convened an emergency meeting to respond to the events at the Capitol Building on January 6th.

After hours of deliberation, the board unanimously passed a resolution calling for the impeachment of Donald Trump.

The call comes with just days left in the president's term.

The resolution published by the National Board states that President Trump has violated his oath to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution, and poses a grave and imminent threat to civil liberties.

On Monday, the House followed suit, filing an official impeachment resolution.

Joining us to discuss this historic moment and how the ACLU came to its call for

impeachment is Susan Herman, ACLU president, and Ruth Bader Ginsburg Professor of Law at

Brooklyn Law School.

I want to start with the decision made by the ACLU National Board to impeach Donald

Trump.

We'll get into the specifics, but at a really high level, how did the ACLU get there?

And what is the precedent for our calling for impeachment at all?

Well, I think it's a sign of how extraordinary the past four years had been

that we found ourselves discussing the impeachment of Donald Trump, not for the first, but for the second time.

The board had previously

voted in 2019 to impeach Mr. Trump. But as a satirist, Andy Burowitz, has said, it seems that

full immunity from Donald Trump requires two doses of impeachment. This is a very unusual proceeding

for us, as you noted, Maui. The ACLU is nonpartisan, so we don't usually discuss whether a

particular person should be in office. We don't support or oppose candidates for elected or

appointed office, so we didn't endorse a candidate in the 2016 election. But after Trump was

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