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🗓️ 20 August 2020
⏱️ 29 minutes
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In the past week the Education Secretary has defended the use of an algorithm to produce A-level grades, categorically ruled out a U-turn and then completed said U-turn. But what if this is just the most high-profile example of algorithms creeping into our everyday lives?
Guests:
Steven Swinford, deputy political editor, The Times.
Timandra Harkness, author of Big Data, Does Size Matter?
Host: David Aaronovitch.
Clips: BBC News, Evening Standard, Sky News, Times Radio.
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0:00.0 | That was the week when pupils got the A-Level results for exams they never sat. |
0:09.7 | For many, their grades were down and the balloon went up. |
0:14.2 | And apparently to blame was a like massive computer says no |
0:31.0 | with the G. CSE results out today it got us here thinking how much of |
0:35.8 | our lives are becoming subject to calculations contained within microchips. |
0:41.4 | We just need to not see them as magical. We need to see algorithms as what they are, which is tools designed by humans for human purposes. |
0:50.0 | You're listening to stories of our times and the Times and the Sunday Times. |
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1:32.0 | I went to see him on Friday and did an interview with him. So let's start with the big issue in front of us and the A-Level grades. |
1:39.0 | He was absolutely categoric as we sat around on the big sofa and he said that there will be no |
1:45.1 | U-turn and no change. |
1:47.4 | That Stephen Swinford deputy political editor at the Times speaking to us from the noisy Times |
1:52.2 | office. The man he's talking about is the |
1:55.0 | education secretary Gavin Williamson. And 72 hours later that policy was |
2:00.1 | completely reversed. Tell me about that discussion last Friday. |
2:03.8 | I went to see him at the Department for Education and I was kind of increasingly |
2:07.4 | bewildered by the government's position on it. |
2:09.7 | You could see the inequities, you could see these awful videos of kids crying who had been marked down |
2:16.0 | disadvantaged children in particular and they were all going viral on the |
2:19.7 | internet and yet the line wasn't changing it wasn't just algorithm says no it was like |
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