From the New York Times on Michael Barbaro, this is the Daily.

Today.

For decades, the ACLU has battled in the courts on behalf of American constitutional rights,

whether it's gay marriage or the rights of neo-Nazis to protest in the streets.

But ever since the 2016 election, the group has been changing tactics.

Why its leader, Anthony Romero, says the NRA is a model.

It's Monday, July 30.

Anthony, I imagine as head of the ACLU that there's kind of an origin story

that you tell about the organization. Can you tell that story to me?

Yeah, it was darkness and then there was light.

You know, it's funny. The very beginnings of the ACLU came out of a time in this country

that's very similar to the one we're living in now.

The era of the Great Migration from Europe began about 1820.

It was in the early 20th century.

During the following 70 years, immigrants came in growing numbers.

You had a burgeoning immigrant community pouring onto the shores of the U.S.

Millions of every nation and calling, drawn together by their vision of America,

a vision of land, opportunity and freedom.

You had the rise of the labor movement where people were getting active

and there were people in the streets and protests and demonstrations

and one of the primary drivers of the creation of the ACLU was the reaction to the Palmer raids.

On the evening of May 1st, a night clerk at the main branch of the U.S. Post Office

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