I wanted to do this podcast because I was hoping to establish a friendship with you because I thought you'd be really fun to party with and I'm no longer sure.

No, we don't stop, stop.

You seem very serious and kind of, I don't know, very highbrow.

So, uh, anyways, that's a bit of a disappointment.

Yeah, I, uh, I can deliver on both fronts.

Okay, good.

Trust me to that.

Okay. I can deliver on both fronts. Okay, good. Trust me. This is an eye.

This is an I-heart podcast, Guaranteed Human.

Hey there, I'm Ed Helms, and welcome to Snafu, the show where I take my guests on a delightful romp through history's biggest screw-ups in a courageous and, let's be honest, largely futile attempt to better understand the human condition.

My guest today are two of the sharpest, funniest, and most brutally honest voices in tech, business, culture, and politics.

Individually, their award-winning journalists, thought leaders, and podcasters, hosting fantastic shows like On with Kara Swisher, the Prof G-Pod, and Raging Moderates.

But together, they co-host Pivot, a show that is highly entertaining and profoundly insightful and basically required listening for anyone trying to navigate this insane moment that we find ourselves in.

Welcome to Snafu, Kara Swisher, and Scott Galloway. Thank you. You know, Scott is the definition of snafu. That's, you know, how we got started. It was a snafu. That's my stage name when I'm a stripper. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's your porn name. Snafu. There you go. Snafu. What do you mean? Well, how do you mean that you got started through a snap boot?

It was a mistake. It was a mistake. We were, I was, I've told the story before, but I was host, but I was host, I was looking for another partner and ran into Scott in Germany of all places where he was giving a, this speech about his trend speech,

which is really cool. He had all these charts. And I was watching it and I kept learning things.

And I think I know everything, obviously, because I do. And, but he kept giving me insights.

I was like, oh, that was smart. But he was so obnoxious on stage. He danced around. He showed off his stomach. He did all manner of things, and the Germans were perplexed. But I was completely entertained and also horrified. And so I went up to him and I said, you really are a jerk, but boy, are you smart. And we come on my show, which is, you know, that's the, you know, meet cute kind of thing. And he did. Do you see

yourself as a jerk or is this a fair characterization? It was my first book. So to get on

with Kara was a big deal. But just to finish her story, she called me and said, and

Kara gets pretty high profile guess. She said, it, your episode is according to our data, the most downloaded episode in our history, and we think it's a mistake. So we want you to come on a second time. That was my favorite part. We're pretty sure it was a mistake. So come on a second time. Anyways, the rest is history. There's no conceivable reason we could figure it. It doesn't make sense.

It doesn't make it.

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