Why Susie Wiles Can't Deny Spilling Trump Secrets

The Daily Beast Podcast

The Daily Beast

News

4.6 • 8.4K Ratings

🗓️ 17 December 2025

⏱️ 41 minutes

🔗️ Recording | iTunes | RSS

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

Chris Whipple joins Joanna Coles as his explosive Susie Wiles profile sends shockwaves through Trump’s White House. After 11 months of on-the-record access, for Vanity Fair, to Susie Wiles, Whipple explains why the facts can’t be denied—and why her description of Trump’s “alcoholic personality” has triggered cabinet-wide panic and presidential pushback. Does this unprecedented candor reveal how Trump 2.0 actually functions, or mark the moment the West Wing turns on its most powerful gatekeeper? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0	This journey that I took with Susie Wiles of her speaking to me, unguarded and on the record,
0:07.3	for 11 months, it's interesting that the White House has not disputed a single fact in the piece
0:16.3	because we're on absolutely solid ground. My instinct, I mean, covered a few White House, is that with this White House and with Susie,
0:26.9	it's never four-dimensional chess, ever.
0:31.2	I think Michael Wolfe would agree with probably.
0:34.1	I think he would.
0:34.9	It's never, it's never even three-dimensional chess.
0:38.9	It's never, it's not even chess.
0:40.6	Is it checkers?
0:41.5	It might be checkers.
0:44.1	I'm Joanna Coles.
0:45.5	This is the Daily Beast podcast.
0:47.0	And what a hullabaloo out of the White House over Chris Whipple, a former producer for 60 Minutes in ABC News and now a contributor
0:57.3	to Vanity Fair. What a hullabaloo about his piece on Susie Wiles, Donald Trump's
1:04.4	chief of staff. Chris Whipple did 11 interviews with Susie Wiles. And oh, what secrets she revealed.
1:12.2	J.D. Vance's transformation from someone who thought that Donald Trump was the new Hitler to his vice president was a political decision.
1:22.5	Elon Musk, when he's tweeting crazy things, is in fact microdosing.
1:26.8	And Donald Trump?
1:27.4	Donald Trump?
1:31.4	Donald Trump has an alcoholic's personality.
1:38.9	Well, the White House itself has come out with its arms around Susie Wiles.
1:41.6	The entire cabinet has tweeted their support. And Donald Trump has said, you know, she barely spoke to Chris Whipple,
	...

Please login to see the full transcript.

Previous episode | Next episode

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from The Daily Beast, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of The Daily Beast and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.