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Yeah, so what I want to do in these two talks, which really go together,

is it to take you on a much more particular journey

into sort of the tortured Catholic scholars, the kind of society.

And have you sort of accompany me as I've been trying to think about what it means to be a Catholic intellectual

and what it might not mean and how we live out sort of the Catholic intellectual life

in the secular setting where

most of us, well, I guess all of you are probably most of you are going to continue to be also

when you're done with your current studies. And the first thing I want to talk about is this

why study created things. Now, we've created things.

I mean, everything does not God.

So I'm going to take most of my examples from astronomy.

They are actually pretty close to also some of the examples that Aquinas gives,

as you see.

But you could, I think, just as well give this talk if you were somebody

who was studying history or art or cell biology or anything else that has to do with the

created order. So everything that's not caught. If you were to ask this question at your university,

to a typical sort of secular kind of audience,

in some sense, that would be a nonsensical question.

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