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The Business of Fashion Podcast

Why Some Retailers are Ignoring the Internet

The Business of Fashion Podcast

The Business of Fashion

Arts, Fashion & Beauty, Business

4.5813 Ratings

🗓️ 29 April 2026

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

For years, the fashion industry operated under the assumption that digital scale was the right path. However, the "growth-at-all-costs" model is currently fracturing as luxury giants grapple with soaring customer acquisition costs and a logistical crisis fueled by high return rates. In response, a quiet counter-culture is emerging, with stores like Ven. Space and Dot Reeder thriving by intentionally limiting their digital footprints. 


In this episode, executive editor Brian Baskin and senior correspondent Sheena Butler-Young discuss with BoF correspondent Austin Kim how these analogue retailers are using hyper-local intimacy and intelligent curation to build a more resilient business model that values brand equity over infinite reach.

 


Key Insights:

 

  • The Rejection of Digital Friction: Store owners like Chris Green of Ven. Space are intentionally limiting their digital footprints to avoid the "grind" of high customer acquisition costs. Austin Kim notes that for these owners, "these small businesses are people doing what they love and what they don't love is e-commerce and they have no interest in it".


  • The "Sit and Fit" Financial Advantage: Analyst Simeon Siegel posits that the in-store customer is the superior economic unit because they absorb the costs of fulfillment. As Kim explains, "In the store, the customer takes the pair of jeans off the rack, walks it over to the cash register, and then takes it home to themselves," whereas online, a brand must pay for picking, packaging, and the high probability of returns.


  • Product Curation as a Moat: Success for these boutiques relies on a "mythic" assortment of brands that creates a level of trust an algorithm cannot replicate. Kim highlights that the draw is the owner's perspective: "Chris Green is almost like a Mr. Rogers if he wore Dries van Noten ... that perspective is exactly what I think customers connect with".


  • Analogue Marketing and the "Third Space": To cut through digital exhaustion, retailers like Outline are pivoting to high-quality print catalogs. Co-founder Margaret Austin describes e-commerce as "unsexy," preferring a strategy where receiving something at your door acts as "an amazing strategy" to cut through the noise of social media.


  • The Scalability Paradox: The "secret sauce" of these stores is often the owner-operator’s deep local roots, which is difficult for corporate entities to mimic. Kim warns that "you lose the soul of a business really quickly as you scale, especially on e-commerce," because you begin buying for an international audience rather than maintaining a specific, connected perspective. 


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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the debrief from the Business of Fashion, where each week we delve into our most popular B.O.F. Professional Stories with the Correspondents who created them. I'm Senior Correspondent Sheena Butler Young.

0:20.0

And I'm Executive Editor Brian Baskin.

0:23.1

If you're in New York and looking to discover the next great Japanese menswear brand or the latest

0:28.1

quiet luxury offerings from the row, Venn Space is a must visit. And I mean that literally,

0:34.2

Chris Green's two-year-old store in Carol Gardens' online presence is minimal.

0:39.0

Its website is a simple list of brands with no e-commerce, and its social media consists of an

0:43.8

infrequently updated Instagram account.

0:47.2

ThenSpace is one of a growing number of stores rejecting the idea that online shopping is the future

0:51.9

of fashion retail. They see a curated, friendly,

0:55.2

in-person experience is the key to success. Their customers would agree. And the strategy is getting

1:00.8

more attention after the high-profile struggles of luxury e-commerce sites like Netaporte and Essence.

1:06.0

With us to discuss is B-OF's Austin Kim, who spoke with Green and other store owners who say e-commerce,

1:12.1

who needs it. Austin, welcome to the day brief. Hi, Sheena. Hi, Ryan. I'm excited to be here.

1:17.2

So, Austin, you actually just joined BOF and this is your first story. So congrats on that.

1:22.4

Thank you. So why don't we start with how you came across this idea? Certainly you were

1:27.1

on scrolling TikTok and discovered stores that are not online. How did you come across VendSpace and the other brands in the story? Well, Vennspace was really the catalyst for this entire story. I just heard murmurs of this store out in Brooklyn and a lot of like the menswear circles I follow

1:45.0

online or a bunch of friends I have that are also into fashion had been talking about this

1:49.0

kind of like mythic store that carries all like the best menswear brands right now.

1:54.1

And so right when I joined B.O.F a few weeks ago, actually, the first store I visited for an

1:59.7

interview was Bun Space. And immediately

2:01.2

when I went there, I knew it was a story. And you can read it in the lead of my article of just

2:07.1

interacting with Chris Green and interacting with his sales associates was such a compelling

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