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Bullwark. So much health care news to talk about right now. We have everything going on with

vaccination and Robert F. Kennedy Jr. running American public health policy. We have a big debate

about Obamacare, possibility that more than 20 million Americans could see their insurance

premium spike, and a debate that could land us in a government shutdown.

Our guest today is smack in the middle of these debates.

It is Tammy Baldwin, Democratic Senator from Wisconsin, a member of the Senate Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions Committee,

which is a fulcrum for all of this. Senator, thanks for making time with us today.

Oh, thanks for having me on such pressing issues.

It is, it is. And we're going to get into all that. We're going to get into RFK and vaccines,

and we're definitely going to get into Obamacare and the subsidies and where

the Democrats stand. But before we do all that, I always like people to start these conversations

with a sense of why health care matters. And I know you have a personal story here from your

childhood. Tell us a little bit about that story and why that sort of put you where you are on this

debate over what government should be doing to help people get health care.

Yeah. So I was actually raised by my grandparents. And my grandparents had health insurance.

But when I was nine, I got a very serious childhood illness that put me in the hospital for three months.

It was similar to spinal meningitis.

That wasn't the exact diagnosis.

But they realized at my time of need that their family health insurance didn't cover grandchildren. And I wasn't considered a legal

dependent. And so, so number one, in our time of need, the insurance company says, nope, we don't cover

her. Because you had a pre-exist. Oh, right. Yeah. Okay. Keep going. Yeah. So when I was sick, when I was in the

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