Welcome to the Dr. Leaf Show and I am so excited to have a very special guest with us today,

Elise Lunan, who has been on the show before and she's amazing. She's done, written a fantastic book

and you've got a workbook out now. She talks about the seven deadly sins and I know that

immediately got your attention, the seven deadly sins, but specifically how they apply to how

women function in

society. So Elise, welcome back and I can't wait to dive in again to this topic in even more

depth. Thank you for having me. It is so fun to talk to you always. I love it. We always have

great conversations. So, well, let's just, just for those listeners that don't know much about

you, just to tell them who you are, what you do, and why you wrote this book.

Yeah. So I'm an author and a podcast host. I have a show called Pulling the Thread, which you also will be on.

And prior to, well, I've always written books. I've lived as a ghost writer, which is sort of an

interesting career path that I write about in my own book as well, because I love hiding

behind other people and shaping and pushing their ideas out into the world. It's a lot

easier than standing for yourself. And I am also a, I was a long time magazine writer and editor and working

both in magazines at Kani Nas and also online. And so I've been thinking about ideas and writing and

editing for, I guess, more than 20 years at this point. I can't believe it. I still think of my,

do you think of yourself as young? I have sort of that age. Yeah. I know. And I have to say, I've been in the field for 40 years. I think, oh, my gosh. I know. I don't feel. Yeah. I still feel like a precocious teenager. And I still feel like, I must be the youngest person here and then I realize no I'm you know

a decade older than everyone else. Exactly. When my mom was this age I used to think she was kind of

old and now I'm this age, you know. I know. It's terrifying. It is. It's funny. Okay. So you wrote

this book, Seven Deadly Sins and tell us a little bit about why you wrote that book. Yeah. So having written so many books, finally, you know, my agent was like, what are you doing? Like, what is this compulsion that you have? Why would you never write your own book? And of course, I protested and I said, I don't really know what I would, I don't have any imagination. I don't have anything to say. And she essentially called me to the mat and was like,

this is, this is something you need to take to therapy, clearly.

But your next book needs to be your own.

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