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Hello and welcome to Coffeehouse Shots, the Spectator's Daily Politics Podcast.

I'm Cindy Yu and I'm joined by Katie Bors and James O'Sithe.

So today the Prime Minister has gone to Scotland physically in a trip to promote the union.

Katie, he's received a lot of flack from Nicholas Sturgeon, not surprisingly, for going there physically.

Was it a bad choice at this moment in the pandemic?

I don't think we're going to know immediately the impact of the Prime Minister's trip.

I think in terms of being criticised for travelling when it's lockdown,

I think that people who want to have a problem of it are going to find a problem. I think if you

rewind the hands of time, when the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge did their tour of the UK and

they stopped in Scotland, Nicola Sturge was fairly cool about that too. So I think she is being

consistent in this idea of shouldn't be travelling. Kirstama,

however, when he was asked about it, said he's the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom.

If he thinks this is an essential work trip and his job to try and keep the UK together,

let him go ahead. I think the question probably, which is more interesting, is, is the Prime

Minister going to Scotland

good for keeping the UK together

and I think there are plenty of Scottish Tories

who to be ranked rather someone like Rishi Sunak

went to Scotland than Boris Johnson

I think Boris Johnson is what it's a personality

problem for them when it comes to making the case

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