Why should we care about conspiracy theorists and so-called sovereign citizens?

Australian True Crime

Meshel Laurie

True Crime

4.6 • 979 Ratings

🗓️ 17 March 2023

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

Is it that bad if people believe in conspiracy theories? According to our guests for this episode, at first it’s funny, irritating (we all had someone we know who was sharing things that seemed a bit off beam over the past three years) and seemingly ridiculous…until it’s not.

SOS and Sandee are two women who live in outer suburban Melbourne and have day jobs and families but they have also been deep diving into the world of places and spaces where people who believe in conspiracy theories and have such a distrust in Governments that they don’t acknowledge the laws that we all have to adhere to…like having a driver's licence, paying council rates and there’s more.

SOS and Sandee go to the protests, they watch endless videos and livestreams and are among a network of others who are doing important work to get people to understand this world and the people who have positioned themselves as leaders, or ‘gurus’, in many cases who are making lots of money from followers. Some also have disturbing political motives for what they are doing.

More info:

You can find SOS and Sandee on Twitter - @SOS149 and @sunnysandeel

Tinfoil Tales is on the feed of The Conditional Release Podcast

Background on Chase Allan - Chase Allan: 5 fast facts you need to know

Some more people to check out to learn more about what we discussed in this episode:

Tom Tanuki (Independent Australia)

The White Rose Society - anti-fascist researchers in Australia

Celery Sorbet on Twitter

Vaxatious Litigant on Twitter

Southern Poverty Law Centre (US)

Hope Not Hate (UK)

Lifeline on 13 11 14

13 YARN on 13 92 76 (24/7 crisis support phone line for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander peoples)

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0:54.0	Is everyone in this movement right wing know?
0:56.0	Is everyone in this movement Nazi or fascist?
1:00.0	Of course not.
1:01.0	But if you're sitting in a room and there's 10 of
1:03.7	few in there and half of them are and you don't leave the room. I don't know if you
1:09.2	get to say you're not when you actively encourage them at your rallies they attend your rallies they take
1:14.8	photos of themselves at your rallies they bring their signs they are in your
1:19.6	telegram chats you sharing their content I don know. I don't know if you still then get to throw your
1:25.8	hands up in the air and go, no, no, no, we're not about that.
1:30.4	This episode idea came to me from seeing stuff on my social media about people
1:39.6	stop by policing their cars but saying to the officers they don't recognize
1:44.4	Australian laws. In fact what really had me wondering was when they would say
1:49.0	I'm not driving, I'm traveling. But in my mind if you're in a car you're driving it right? Well that's
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