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Why SBF's Testimony So Far Has Likely Already Doomed Him - Ep. 563

Unchained

Laura Shin

News, Business News, Tech News

4.61.3K Ratings

🗓️ 30 October 2023

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Sam Enzer, a partner at the law firm Cahill Gordon & Reindel, told Laura that former FTX CEO Sam Bankman-Fried did about as well as he could in his testimony Friday but that he was unlikely “to withstand the scrutiny” of what prosecutors have already said will be a robust cross-examination when he takes the stand Monday.  Enzer noted that Bankman-Fried’s attempts to explain why he thought his trading shop, Alameda Research, could borrow billions in dollars of FTX customer assets “defies common sense,” and that the company’s own terms of agreement or any other communications offered no justification for this belief. A Thursday hearing without the jury present, in which the defense gave a preview of some arguments it wanted to make, ended up giving the government answers from SBF that it can now use against him. Enzer also said that Bankman-Fried’s contention that his biggest mistake – a failure to implement proper risk management – did not constitute criminal fraud, did not address the core of the government’s case; namely, that he lied about how FTX was handling customer deposits. Show highlights: why Enzer thinks Sam Bankman-Fried’s testimony is unlikely to sway jury sentiment or withstand cross-examination why the evidentiary hearing in which SBF testified without a jury may hurt his cause the purpose of the evidentiary hearing how Judge Lewis Kaplan hinted at what he thought about SBF’s testimony how Bankman-Fried is likely to fare against prosecutor Danielle Sassoon in what she has promised will be a robust cross-examination how the defense tried to recast SBF’s image by humanizing him why the defense now has the strongest grounds for an appeal than it previously did  what the jury is likely to make of SBF’s contention that he was in the dark about core allegations  why the prosecution said it will call rebuttal witnesses what a charge conference is and why that will take place after SBF testifies Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Arbitrum Foundation LayerZero Popcorn Network Guest: Sam Enzer, partner at Cahill Gordon & Reindel Links Previous coverage by Unchained on the trial of Sam Bankman-Fried: How Heated Sidebars During the SBF Trial Could Impact the Jury’s Decision SBF Trial, Day 1: Possible Witnesses Include FTX Insiders, Big Names in Crypto, and SBF’s Family SBF Trial, Day 2: DOJ Says Sam Bankman-Fried ‘Lied’ While Defense Claims His Actions Were ‘Reasonable’ SBF Trial, Day 3: Why a True Believer in FTX Flipped Once He Learned One Fact SBF Trial, Day 4: SBF’s Lawyers Annoy Judge Kaplan, While Wang Reveals Alameda’s Special Privileges Sam Bankman-Fried Trial: Here's Everything That Happened So Far SBF Trial, Day 5: SBF's Defense Finally Found Its Legs, But Can It Counter Caroline Ellison? SBF Trial, Day 6: Caroline Ellison Recalls 'The Worst Week of My Life' SBF Trial, Day 7: In SBF Trial, Did the Defense Lose Its Opportunity With the Star Witness? SBF Trial, Day 8: Former BlockFi CEO Adds Credibility to Fraud Charges  SBF Trial, Day 9: Nishad Singh Describes Former FTX CEO as a Bully and Big Spender SBF Trial, Day 10: Defense Struggles to Discredit Nishad Singh's Testimony SBF Trial, Day 11: How Alameda Got FTX Into a $9 Billion Hole SBF Trial, Day 12: Former FTX General Counsel Speaks Out Against SBF SBF Trial, Day 13: Before Judge, Former FTX CEO Sam Bankman-Fried Gives Few Straight Answers SBF Trial, Day 14: Sam Bankman-Fried Casts Blame on Others for Key Decisions at FTX Did Sam Bankman-Fried Have Intent to Defraud FTX Investors? Good Morning America: FTX's Sam Bankman-Fried on crypto giant's collapse: 'A lot of people got hurt. And that's on me' Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

The paperback version of my book, The Cryptopians, is out now.

0:04.5

It contains a new afterward covering recent developments in crypto since 2021 when the

0:09.0

book went to press.

0:10.4

Plus, this version names the person I suspect to be the Dow hacker.

0:14.7

In case you never got to read the book in hardback, or like me, you like to read paperbacks

0:19.0

or bedtime reading, order today, check our newsletter and the show notes for the link,

0:23.7

or just search for it at any of your favorite bookstores.

0:26.5

It's The Cryptopians.

0:28.0

Idealism, greed, lies, and the making of the first big cryptocurrency craze.

0:32.6

Thanks for reading.

0:33.6

And why is that bad for SBF, that line?

0:36.3

Okay, so we know there are representations, SBF said during, while he was running FTX,

0:42.5

that they safeguarded customer assets.

0:44.5

We know the government's theory is that there was embezzlement of the funds through

0:48.4

Alameda, right?

0:50.3

And now he's acknowledging safe embezzlement is the opposite of safeguarding.

0:56.4

In other words, if in fact they were embezzling and he knew about it, they have proven that

1:01.8

statement is a fraudulent representation.

1:04.8

And they've got his own words to say it, and I guarantee they're going to try to use that

1:08.1

on cross-examination.

1:10.4

Hi, everyone.

1:14.4

Welcome to Unchained, your no hype resource for all things crypto.

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