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with this week's interview with Charles Murray.

For many years, as most of you know, I've been predicting a Christian revival and one that

would be different from earlier revivals in that it would have its center, not on the street,

but among intellectuals, something like the Oxford movement in the 19th century, that

re-legitomized orthodoxy in England.

And I think that revival is well underway.

Obviously, tragically, it was kind of supercharged by the murder of Charlie Kirk.

But it has been attended, as I predicted, by the revival of faith in very bright, thoughtful

men.

And there is no one more thoughtful or bright than Charles

Murray. He has been an honest and fearless intellectual. He has been excoriated and attacked

physically, in fact, for his straight up non-bigoted talk about race in books like the bell

curve and facing reality and coming apart. He has written a new book, which I am into, but I have not quite

finished yet, but I can say it is equally fearless and also deeply personal and just a terrific

read. It's called Taking Religion Seriously. It is well worth taking a look at. Charles,

it's good to see you again. Thank you for coming back. Good to see you again.

It's been a long time.

Yes, it's been a while.

And I have to tell you, I was not expecting this book from you. It took me off guard, and I was really excited by it when I saw it in the encounter

catalog.

I sent for it right away, and it's it's gripping.

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