Hello again, I'm Armin Alney, and this is to the point. The entire world, of course,

we all know, faces two major crises with climate change and COVID-19. As to COVID, once the pandemic

is over, what's the new normal going to look like? Sorry to say that COVID will still definitely be a part of it.

And the best ways to cope are anathema already to millions of people. So are we prepared?

We'll talk about that a bit later. First, the existential crisis of climate change. We've gone so far, it'll always be with us too,

but we still have a chance to keep it from getting worse than it needs to be.

But how much time is there left and how well are we doing?

We've heard one opinion about that from Greta Tunberg

during the International COP 26 climate meeting last year in

Glasgow here's what you had to say.

COP 26 has been named the most exclusionary COP ever.

This is no longer a climate conference. This is now a global North Greenwash Festival.

A two-week-long celebration of business as usual and blah, blah, blah.

Now President Biden has proposed what's called the most aggressive U.S. climate agenda ever.

But it may or may not pass the Congress, and if it does, it won't get us close to producing greenhouse emissions enough to make a big difference.

The time has come to start acting like the House is on fire because it is.

That's according to Margaret Klein-Selleman. She is a clinical

psychologist by training. She's also executive director of the Climate Emergency Fund. Welcome to you.

Thanks so much for having me. So what's holding us back? Why aren't we making more progress?

So as a psychologist, I really key in on the elements of

denial that are holding us back. And I don't just mean denial. It's not real. It's not happening

that the fossil fuel companies have been selling. I'm talking about denial from the

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