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Soteriology 101 w/ Dr. Leighton Flowers

Why Pray if God Won't Violate Human Free Will?

Soteriology 101 w/ Dr. Leighton Flowers

Leighton Flowers

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.8826 Ratings

🗓️ 13 November 2017

⏱️ 7 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Flowers answers a question posed by two Calvinistic friends from the Doctrine and Devotion Podcast (Jimmy and Joe).

Why should Traditionalists pray if they do not believe God will violate human free will?

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello, my name's Layton Flowers with Sotriology 101. I'm the director of apologetics for Texas

0:04.6

Baptist and want to answer some questions from the traditionalist perspective. Some Calvinists have

0:10.0

asked the question, why do you guys bother praying if you don't believe that God will violate

0:15.3

human free will? Well, actually, I want you to hear from two Calvinistic brothers, good brothers from doctrine and devotion.

0:23.9

These two guys tell you a little bit more about why they are asking this question.

0:29.5

I'll let you hear it from their own words.

0:31.8

But he talks about that, like, well, look at prayer.

0:34.7

Like, even though we may say we are, for some people that they are uh non-reformed

0:41.2

they don't believe in in um god's sovereign work in salvation right so they believe in libertarian free

0:48.1

will where i all options are open to me i can do one thing or the other and if i were to go back in time

0:53.0

i could have done something different.

0:54.5

Correct.

0:55.2

True free will.

0:55.6

Yes.

0:57.6

But yet, listen to the prayers.

0:59.8

How then are you praying for the salvation? I know how they pray.

1:01.5

Here's how they pray.

1:02.3

This is a libertarian, they go, dear Lord, I'm eager to see my friend saved, but I know

1:09.4

that you cannot violate his will.

1:11.1

No, I've never heard that.

1:12.0

No, I'm saying that you cannot compel him against his will.

1:14.7

No.

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