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🗓️ 5 November 2025
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Half the states in the US have passed age verification laws that put pornography under threat. Not only does this compromise a vital industry, it puts all of free speech in danger as well. Today, Adam is joined by Siri Dahl, an adult performer and outspoken critic of age verification laws, and Noelle Purdue, a writer and internet porn historian. Together, they discuss how attacks on porn have been an entry point for devastating impingements on civil liberties.
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| 0:00.0 | This is a headgum podcast. |
| 0:05.0 | I don't know the truth. |
| 0:08.3 | I don't know the way. |
| 0:10.9 | I don't know what to think. |
| 0:13.6 | I don't know what to say. |
| 0:16.6 | Yeah, but that's all right. |
| 0:19.4 | That's okay. |
| 0:21.6 | I don't know anything. |
| 0:26.1 | Hey there, welcome to Factually. |
| 0:27.8 | I'm Adam Conover. |
| 0:28.6 | Thank you so much for joining me on the show again. |
| 0:30.9 | This week, we have a really important episode for you because we're talking about a huge story that not nearly enough people are talking about. |
| 0:39.4 | The internet. |
| 0:40.3 | The very internet I'm talking to you on right now is being systematically censored in a way that it almost never has before. |
| 0:48.5 | You know, when the internet got started, the whole point was that it was a place where there wasn't censorship. |
| 0:54.2 | Because mainstream media at the time was under total corporate and governmental control. |
| 0:59.6 | You could only say what you were allowed to say and show what the people in power allowed you to show. |
| 1:05.8 | But the internet, well, that was a free expression zone, |
| 1:09.9 | where art and politics and sex could flourish without corporate or governmental meddling. |
| 1:16.4 | And you know what? It turns out that a lot of people wanted more access to sex and sexual content. |
| 1:22.5 | It's not an exaggeration to say that pornography and other sexual content was the internet's original killer app. |
| 1:29.2 | It was the thing that people wanted, and yes, needed and couldn't get anywhere else. |
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