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Welcome to Forum.

I'm Mina Kim. For his first encyclical last week, a document that's considered one of the most important papal texts, Pope Leo XIV, chose to focus on AI. Artificial intelligence needs to be disarmed. The word is strong, I know, but deliberately

chosen because this moment needs words capable of attracting attention, awakening consciences,

and indicating paths forward for humanity. Artificial intelligence already touches many areas of our lives and affects decisions that shape human coexistence.

It is also dramatically changing how war is waged.

From Vatican City, the Pope urged tech companies and policymakers worldwide to place morality and human

dignity over profit. This hour, we look at how that message is being received in Silicon Valley

and break down the Pope's guidance. Listeners, do you think the Pope's recommendations will have

any effect on the development and deployment of AI? Joining me is Cade Metz, a technology reporter for the New York Times. Thanks so much for being with us, Kate. Glad to be here. Also with us is Kim Daniels, director of the initiative on Catholic social thought and public life at Georgetown University. Kim, really glad to have you with us, too. Great to be here. So, Kate, you've covered technology for more

than 30 years. How often do you get to write about the Pope? I have to say, I think this is the first

time, and it was very exciting. I grew up as a Catholic. My mother, knowing that this is my

area of interest for so long, made jokes about me potentially covering this.

And, of course, it had to happen.

What was her joke?

You know, as a teenager, I didn't exactly like, you know, showing up to Catholic Mass every Sunday.

But, you know, as she points out, it's a great education that I got, and I'm glad I can bring it to bear at this moment.

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