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Angry Planet

Why People Online Defend the Uighur Genocide

Angry Planet

Matthew Gault

War, Politics, Conflict, Government, History, News

4.3882 Ratings

🗓️ 21 January 2022

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

Genocide and disinformation. That’s the topic of today’s heady program. I hope none of you have had the pleasure of debating the Uighur genocide with friends or with, god forbid, with anonymous people on the internet. If you have, you may have noticed a certain … uniformity to the arguments despite a mountain of evidence to the contrary.


It turns out there may be a reason for that.


Here to help us untangle it all is Alexander Reid Ross. Ross is a senior fellow at the Centre for Analysis of the Radical Right and senior data analyst at the Network Contagion Research Institute. He’s also the co-author of the report we’re talking about here today The Big Business of Uyghur Genocide Denial.

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0:00.0

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0:05.1

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0:25.0

Frankly, that seems to be the problem.

0:31.0

Welcome to Angry Planet. I'm Matthew Galt and I'm Jason Fields.

0:47.0

Genocide and Disinformation. That's the topic of today's Eddie program.

0:52.8

I hope none of you have had the pleasure of debating the Uyghur

0:55.7

genocide with friends or with, God forbid, anonymous people on the internet.

1:00.1

If you have, you may have noticed a certain uniformity to the arguments, despite a mountain of evidence to the contrary.

1:07.1

Turns out there may be a reason for that.

1:09.7

And here to help us untangle all of it is Alexander Reed Ross.

1:13.2

Ross is a senior fellow at the Center for Analysis of the Radical Right

1:17.0

and a senior data analyst at the Network Contagion Research Institute.

1:21.5

He's also the co-author of the report we're talking about today

1:24.3

which is titled The Big Business of Uyghur Genocide Denial. Sir, thank you so

1:29.2

much for joining us. Thank you for having me.

1:33.0

So my first question is, how does someone who spends his days analyzing the radical right

1:40.0

turn his eye on to what I would call a conspicuously left-wing disinformation network.

1:47.9

It's complicated. I started researching disinformation because of the convergences actually between the left and right and

1:57.6

you see a lot of this in Bosnian genocide denial and you see a lot of it in Russian disinformation that is often aimed

2:08.6

towards you know humanitarians raising criticisms about the use of chemical weapons in Syria, bombing of hospitals

2:18.8

and that sort of thing.

2:20.3

So the real aspect of Chinese disinformation

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