Jason on today's show we're interviewing Kathy Caprino, the best-selling author of the book Breakdown Breakthrough.

And she's talking about leaving corporate America and why people often self-destruct.

My friend, how hard is it for some people to start their own company

after leaving Corporate America?

It's extremely hard.

People don't know where they want to start. They also don't know what to do.

Well, if you're out there saying, I want to be self-employed, but I don't know the first steps. I don't know where I would start.

On today's show, Kathy Caprino shares with us why heightened self-awareness is key to becoming successful

and why people often self-destruct.

Some shows don't need a celebrity narrator to introduce the show, but this show does. Two men, eight kids

co-created by two different women, 13 multi-million dollar businesses.

Ladies and gentlemen,

welcome to the Thrive Time Show. What? Yes, yes, and yes,

and yes, Pride Nation on today's show.

We have a special guest, an incredible woman by the name of Kathy Caprino.

Kathy Caprino, welcome on to the Thrive Time Show.

How are you?

Oh, thank you for having me, Clay.

I am good today.

Today was one of those days where things you've been hoping for start coming out, coming through.

So I'm happy as can be.

Kathy, are you a musical person? Do you like music?

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