What's up everybody.

Welcome into the Next Pats podcast.

I'm Phil Perry.

This is your second Next Pats episode of the week, trying to load you up with as much

content for your earholes as humanly possible. We have a couple more fantastic interviews for you to

listen to right now. We're talking to Lawrence Guy, longtime New England Patriot, one of the leaders

on that defense. Walter Payton, man of the year nominee from the Patriots this year. He was there

on the field at the Super Bowl. You probably saw him there if you were watching broadcast,

but he's got a lot to talk with us about, whether it's this Patriots defense and how they

recover from the end of last season, how things are going, that Patriots coaching staff on the defensive side,

if that's working out for everybody, where you have two sort of de facto co-coordinators,

but no coordinators in title.

And it's my understanding that in 2022, the titles aren't going to be changing all that much.

So if you're hoping to see somebody named defensive coordinator and somebody not

or to see two defensive co-coordinators name,

I don't think we're going to see a whole lot of change as far as that stuff goes.

But a great conversation with Lawrence Guy, not only on the defense,

but specifically on his defensive teammate,

a next Pat's focus here on this podcast, Christian Barmore.

What's his potential?

And Mack Jones as well.

What does he seem from Mac Jones?

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