Hey, hey, where you been? Look, I talk, it's about to begin. Hey, hey, hey, come on in.

Well, I talked to Douglas and Nathan there, Steve, he's off this week and we are doing what you watch and what you're eating. So at the end of this, we'll talk about some things we're eating and some things we're watching. And by the way, Nathan, as a tease, I brought this over to the Orange Brown talk podcast and the Wednesday podcast on the Browns.

We got a little watch in the neat and with Scott Patsko and Ashley Basta, so they were excited about that. So I had to come up with two different things this week, because I don't want to double dip what I'm watching and what I'm eating, but lucky for you and lucky for the audience, I watch more than one thing. And I eat more than one thing. So there's plenty of room to discuss that. But we're going to start with football.

And we're going to start with the desirability ratings for universities as it applies to how attractive they are to be in a college football conference. So it's the entire athletic program is the entire university, but it's driven by football, which is what this is the real life. And I don't think I have to explain it to people.

So let me explain. You're moving everything about your university and athletic program, but really you're only doing it because of one sport. I don't think anyone's like, what? That doesn't sound. That sounds crazy. What do you mean? It's real life. I think people have a handle on this.

Yeah. And when we've talked to a couple of weeks ago, when we talked to Jean Smith and Christina Johnson about this, certainly there are questions about how, for instance, USC and UCLA joining the big 10 effects other sports besides football, but it's never the other way around. It's always football is doing this thing, football, the gravity of everything is shifting because the planets are shifting. UCLA and USC are moving into a different orbit.

How does that gravitationally throw off everything else?

I can remember when the Nebraska move happened to the big 10 and everybody was playing who's next, who's next, who's next.

And at some point, I don't know if I wrote it or just thought it or looked into it or had a conversation, but for 15 minutes, I had myself wrapped up in the idea of Kansas basketball is really intriguing.

Kansas basketball and the idea that at any point, anything about any sport other than football that you would even have pretended that it mattered when it came to, now listen, it's not like Rutgers football got Rutgers in the big 10, right?

So it's not, but it's like the potential of Rutgers football as a pseudo New York market team. That's what matters. So it's not just football in the field, but it's about the potential of the value of your football program and as it relates to people watching your football program.

That's what drives us. It makes me laugh at for 15 minutes. I won't stop. Well, maybe Kansas basketball get them in the big 10.

It's really funny. You mentioned them right up front because based on what his numbers will get into in a second and in some, some reverse engineering of the numbers that I did.

I think I went from someone who also at one point thought, you know, you could squint and see like this would make sense for the big 10, right? Kansas City market. Yeah, they're, they had their brief moment football, but they're terrible, but basketball, they're a blue bud. It would be really great.

And et cetera, I've gone from there to thinking this is not a power five athletic program. Right. They do not belong in power five. They are not. I have a friend who is a, who I was a sports journalist with, you know, we worked together in Denver, Illinois many years ago.

And then he has gone on to be a lawyer, but he lives in Kansas City or outside Kansas City is went to a law school at KU has like long ties to Lawrence and KU. And I would love to maybe have a conversation with him sometime about convinced me that not only.

That don't forget about which conference a belonging convinced me that Kansas should actually still be considered a power five athletic program.

If somebody at the University of Toledo had hung up a peach basket, then Toledo maybe would be what can this is right now, right? It's really a peach basket.

And it just had it. They had the peach basket guy. So what we're going to talk about Pat 40 at SI dot com created what he called the desirability ratings for the power five where he ranked all 65 teams in the power five, I think ranked them in five different categories.

And I want to say off the top that this kind of thing where you make up rankings, you decide what is important. You then apply numerical value to all of them and you make a chart and you come up with hard and fast mathematical answers out of nowhere.

Yeah.

What do I love that stuff? I know.

...