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Money For the Rest of Us

Why Negative Prices Exist and What They Can Teach Us

Money For the Rest of Us

J. David Stein

Investing, Investing Podcast, Business, Economics, Economy

4.51.4K Ratings

🗓️ 29 April 2020

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

Why the oil price fell below zero and what are other examples of negative prices. What lessons can we learn from negative prices.

Topics covered include:

  • How oil futures work and why the oil future prices fell below zero for the first time ever.
  • Why has the United States Oil ETF (USO) lost so much money.
  • How ETF authorized participants create new shares only so they can be shorted.
  • How storage problems for oil and electricity can lead to negative prices.
  • How negative interest rates are another form of negative prices.
  • Why sellers will pay buyers to deliver a service to them.
  • What financial lessons can we learn from negative prices.


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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to Money for the rest of us. This is a personal finance show on money, how it works, how to invest it and how to live without worrying about it.

0:12.0

I'm your host David Stein today's episode

0:14.4

296. It's title Why Do Negative Prices Exist? Last week the price of the May 2020 West Texas Intermediate Crude Oil Futures

0:28.0

contract known as W.T. I fell to as low as negative $37 per contract.

0:35.0

That means the holder who was long oil was willing to pay to exit the contract.

0:42.0

CMBC markets reporter Pippa Steele to exit the contract.

0:42.6

CMBC markets reporter Pippa Stevens wrote,

0:46.2

On Monday, for the first time on record, West Texas Intermediate,

0:50.4

the US Oil Benchmark plunged below zero and into negative territory.

0:56.6

Before Monday, many thought this was impossible.

0:59.6

Maybe, just maybe it could drop to zero, effectively erasing all value.

1:04.4

But negative territory seemed unimaginable,

1:07.6

not least because it's hard even to wrap one's mind around it.

1:12.4

Pay someone to take your oil?

1:15.0

In this episode, we're going to see why oil prices went negative.

1:19.0

We'll also look at other examples of negative prices and why they exist and what we can learn from them.

1:27.0

The W.T. I futures contract has a physical settlement, which means whoever holds the contract when it expires

1:35.3

receives a barrel of oil. The contract settles in Cushing Oklahoma that's where

1:42.0

that barrel of oil is delivered. If you own the contract, that's where you're

1:46.0

going to get your oil, or at least arrange for somebody to store it for you.

1:51.6

U.S. crude inventories are near an all-time record high and in Cushing, Oklahoma, 70%

2:00.1

of the storage capacity was full as of mid-April and a Reuters article suggested that most of the

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