Welcome back to the game. Today is a guest spot on David Perel's podcast, How I Write.

And so this is a super deep dive on writing. And I would say probably about 30 to 40% of it's on

copywriting. And so the book and the books that I've written, the process, how I think through it.

If you write for living in any way, so you write emails, you write blogs, you write books,

you write webinars, you write video sales letters, you write slack messages. If you write words,

then you might get value from this. I weirdly am not considered a writer, but it's the thing

that I probably enjoy most in the world. And I actually got a full scholarship to college

for writing. I decided not to take the scholarship and go to Vanderbilt instead. But writing has been

a part of my life for as long as I've had a brain in hands. I don't get to talk about it often.

And I think you might find some value from it. That's right.

Alex Ramose has written two killer business books that together have sold more than one million copies.

And all that obsessive writing has gotten him to 9 million followers across social media

platforms.

And this is the first interview he's ever done that's all about the writing process.

One of the things that super distinguishes you is you just like go into Hermose Cave every morning and you just write, right, right, right.

So tell me about how you do that.

I wake up and then I caffat me and then I put ear plugs and headphones on. I close all the

windows. And I really only write on days that I know have at least like six hours or more uninterrupted,

sometimes eight. Like I definitely suffer from like Zegernick effect, which is

open loop, right? The idea of like, if you have something later on in the day, like, it, it,

it messes with me a little bit because I feel like I want to be able to lose myself in the writing

and then like come up for air whenever I want to come up for air rather than think like,

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