Hello, everybody. Welcome to Three Point Perspective, the podcast about illustration, how to do it, how to make a living at it, and how to make an impact in the world with your art. I'm Jake Parker.

I'm Lee. And I'm Anthony Wheeler. Let's jump into it. All right, Lee, take it away. This is your episode.

All right, all right.

So the intro, I'm going to switch to my screen.

You guys should know if you're listening, driving in your car or wherever in your studio,

that we do have a YouTube channel that shows things.

So I'm going to show a slideshow.

We're going to talk about each of the things on the slides anyway.

You don't have to see it. But I just wanted people to know because I did see a

comment last week that said, well, I didn't even know you guys had the YouTube channel, even

though we talk about it every time. So I do want to say that there will be slides here. But the topic

today is finances.

You know, I've done Lee's money tips every now and again.

But, you know, I've been talking to different illustrators.

I have all these different text threads with different illustrators.

And I realize that, you know, it's the knowledge base for finances is very piecemeal.

Some people have no idea about any of it. And they're just winging the whole thing. Other people, you know, somewhere, they have some sophistication in some

areas, but not others. And so I wanted to do an episode where we just talk about the life around

illustration. Now, this isn't an episode where I want to talk about billing your client

or getting more work. That's a different kind of, that's illustration. That's part of the

illustration business. This is about, hey, you made some money, whether it's from illustration

or your spouse or partner, whoever makes money,

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