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Why Ministry Partners Are Better than Instagram Friends

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TGC Podcast

Religion, Tgc, Society & Culture, Religion & Spirituality, The Gospel Coalition, Philosophy, 608017, Gospel Coalition, Christianity

4.51.2K Ratings

🗓️ 10 October 2025

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

In this conversation recorded at TGCW24, Melissa Kruger, Ruth Chou Simons, Courtney Doctor, and Ann Voskamp discuss the blessings of persevering with real-life partnerships in ministry rather than taking refuge in digital friendships.

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Gospel Coalition podcast, where we help to renew and unify the contemporary church in the ancient gospel.

0:16.0

Today's podcast is a conversation with Melissa Kruger, Courtney Doctor, and Ruth Cho-Simon's on why ministry

0:22.8

partners are better than Instagram friends. It was recorded at our 2024 Women's Conference.

0:30.0

I'm Melissa Kruger. I work for the Gospel Coalition, and I'm really happy all of you are here.

0:36.3

So it's so great to get to be here with you guys. I'm Ruth Joe Simons. I'm really happy all of you're here. So it's so great to get to be here with you guys.

0:39.2

Good. I'm Ruth Joe Simons. I'm an artist, author, and founder of Grace Slase.com.

0:45.2

I live in Western Colorado. I'm a mama to six boys and an actual friends with all these ladies.

0:52.7

I'm Courtney Doctor. I'm the director of women's initiatives at the

0:55.7

Gospel Coalition, and I live in North Georgia now, just south of Chattanooga, Tennessee, but I look

1:02.6

out on this room, and I not only have my parents here and daughter-in-laws here, I have real-life

1:08.3

friends from different stages, church friends, and it is a joy to be here

1:13.4

and to think about these friendships and the way they've impacted me and formed me and to have

1:17.8

them in the room. So it's really fun. Isn't it fun? So good. My name is Anne Bosscamp. My husband and I

1:25.8

live on a farm outside of Ontario, Canada, outside of Toronto, Ontario, Canada.

1:31.1

We have the joy of two daughter-in-laws in the room here.

1:36.5

Our first grandson is, our first grandbaby is in the room.

1:40.3

And we got to road trip down with the two daughter-in-laws and their sisters and their mom and their mom's best friend.

1:49.1

So I got the joy of friendship all the way down here.

1:51.7

And I didn't know when my sons married such beautiful daughters that I would get the friendship with their mothers, which has been such a gift and a grace.

2:02.1

Amen.

2:03.7

That's so, that's such a great way. You get the bonus friends. You've said that as well.

2:08.5

We're waiting. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know. I love it. Um, well, I want to start

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