So I mean, I got my first win against the Angels who, you know, gave me up for, you know, bag of potato chips and sit me on my way. They didn't want me around anymore. And I made it a point that every time I saw them, I was going to remind them who I was that they gave up. And it's going to be the same way with the Indians. And, you know, I still have great relationships with the guys over there.

And there's still a great ball team with, you know, one of the greatest managers in the game of baseball.

So, I mean, it's going to be fun competing against them. And I, yeah, I want to shove it down their throat.

Yeah, for sure.

All right.

That is new White Sox pitcher, Mike Clevenger, who, like the White Sox, has some revenge on his mind when it comes to the Guardians.

I'm liking this signing more and more. And I think you're going to feel the same after hearing Mike here on the White Sox Talk podcast, brought to you by Win Trust.

Hey, everybody. It's Chuck Arfine here in San Diego at the winter meetings.

It's what the White Sox do this week.

But in the meantime, it's an interview with Mike Clevenger.

And you're probably asking yourselves, what happened to Mike Clevenger?

Who was he last season?

Well, I asked Mike this very question.

And as you're going to hear, he is an open book about what has happened to him the last few seasons,

needing Tommy John surgery, why he wasn't the same pitcher last season,

and why he's out to prove to everybody that he can be the Mike Clevenger,

who was one of the best pictures in baseball from 2017 to 2020.

He also talks about a harrowing, near-death experience he had last season,

how he pitched in the playoffs with the Padres with a torn elbow,

and how his life has taken some wild twists and turns that now has him in a great spot with the White Sox.

So it's Mike Levenger.

Coming up on the White Sox Talk podcast.

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