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NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast

Why Middle Class Budgets Are Cracking and How to Use Travel Points Before They Devalue

NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast

NerdWallet Personal Finance

Investing, Education, Business, How To

4.3 • 892 Ratings

🗓️ 14 May 2026

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

Learn how the E-shaped economy is reshaping middle-class budgets and how to stretch travel points on real trips. What does it really mean when economists say the U.S. economy has shifted from a K-shape to an E-shape, and where do middle-class households fit in this new picture? Hosts Sean Pyles and Elizabeth Ayoola talk with senior news writer Anna Helhoski about why middle-class earners are increasingly slipping from the top of the K to the middle of the E, what new data reveals about families struggling to afford basic necessities in their own metro areas, and how spending patterns are shifting as essential costs eat up more of each paycheck. Then, how can you actually make travel points work for a real trip without burning them on the wrong redemption? Sean and Elizabeth are joined by Meghan Coyle, co-host of NerdWallet's Smart Travel podcast, to walk through the smartest ways to use airline miles and hotel points. They discuss how to calculate whether points or cash is the better deal for any booking, why hotel points and airline miles aren't created equal, what happens when you transfer points speculatively, and creative ways to keep earning points without picking up another credit card. Card benefits, terms and fees can change. For the most up-to-date information about cards mentioned in this episode, read our reviews: Best Travel Credit Cards of May 2026 https://www.nerdwallet.com/credit-cards/best/travel  Atmos Rewards Summit Card: Perks as Unique as They Are Valuable https://www.nerdwallet.com/credit-cards/reviews/atmos-rewards-summit  Atmos Rewards Ascent Review: Well Worth $95 a Year https://www.nerdwallet.com/credit-cards/reviews/alaska-airlines-credit-card  American Express Platinum Review: Top-Notch Lounge Access, Big Credits https://www.nerdwallet.com/credit-cards/reviews/american-express-platinum  Is a Bilt Credit Card Worth It? https://www.nerdwallet.com/travel/learn/bilt-mastercard Resources discussed in this episode: 'K-Shaped' Economy Is Giving Way to an 'E-Shaped' Divide https://www.nerdwallet.com/finance/news/e-shaped-economy  How Much Are Travel Points and Miles Worth in 2026? https://www.nerdwallet.com/travel/learn/airline-miles-and-hotel-points-valuations  Points and Miles vs. Cash Calculator https://www.nerdwallet.com/travel/learn/calculator-should-you-book-a-flight-with-cash-or-miles  The Best Award Travel Search Tool for 2026 https://www.nerdwallet.com/travel/learn/best-award-travel-search-tool  Want us to review your budget? Fill out this form — completely anonymously if you want — and we might feature your budget in a future segment! https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScK53yAufsc4v5UpghhVfxtk2MoyooHzlSIRBnRxUPl3hKBig/viewform?usp=header To send the Nerds your money questions, call or text the Nerd hotline at 901-730-6373 or email podcast@nerdwallet.com. Like what you hear? Please leave us a review and tell a friend. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:30.5

Hey, Elizabeth, we have to talk about the newsletter.

0:34.0

What newsletter are you talking about, Sean?

0:35.5

You mean the new, free, smart money email newsletter? Yes, and I have to say it is so good. It really is. It has clips, episode roundups, and behind the scenes takes from me, you, and our producer, the stuff that makes you feel like you're really part of the show. And listeners, for the record, you actually are part of the show. I'm going to be sharing

0:54.6

personal stuff. You know, I love sharing my business, and I'm going to be sharing parenting

0:58.1

tips from an eight-year-old and a single mom perspective. And I am loading up the newsletter with

1:03.6

my favorite gardening tips and lots of cute photos from my garden, including my pets,

1:08.5

just napping among my flower beds. It's kind of adorable.

1:12.2

And the best part is that this newsletter is totally free. So head to nerdwollet.com slash podcast to sign up.

1:18.4

For the record, that's nerdwollet.com slash podcast. Come hang out with us.

1:23.7

Let's say a certain host of a certain personal finance podcast has a bunch of credit card points and a big summer vacation coming up.

1:32.0

Would you know the best way to use those points to get the most value from them?

1:35.8

Me either.

1:36.7

So this episode, we're going to talk with another nerd who does have the answers.

1:42.5

Welcome to NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast, where you send us your money questions and we answer them with the help of our genius nerds.

1:49.0

I'm Sean Piles.

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