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The Virtual Couch

Why "Me Too" Feels Like "Not You": Stop Fixing, Start Staying

The Virtual Couch

Tony Overbay LMFT

Education, Self-improvement, Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.9 β€’ 668 Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 3 March 2026

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

You said, "That sounds really hard," so why is your partner still upset? It's called the Empathy Dash β€” that moment you touch your partner's pain just long enough to check a box, then sprint toward solutions, silver linings, or your own experience. In over 1,500 couples sessions, Tony has watched this pattern quietly erode trust while both partners swear they're trying. This episode unpacks why your empathy isn't landing, what your nervous system is actually doing when you rush to fix, and a deceptively simple practice that changes everything. In this episode, you'll discover: Why "me too" on the inside lands like "not you" on the outside β€” and the intent-vs-impact gap where relationships slowly erode Stealing Thunder: the real-time couples session moment that perfectly captures how sharing gets hijacked before it even lands How your Adaptive Child β€” the survival strategy that kept you safe growing up β€” is now sabotaging your closest relationship The neuroscience of co-regulation and why your calm presence does more than your best advice ever could The 3-Before-1 Rule: a concrete practice for staying present when every instinct says fix, solve, or flee Tony Overbay, LMFT, draws from over two decades of couples therapy, Terry Real's relational framework, and Dan Siegel's interpersonal neurobiology to redefine what empathy actually looks like in practice. If you've ever left a conversation thinking "I said all the right things" while your partner felt completely unseen β€” this one's for you. You're not broken. You just don't know what you don't know yet. 00:00 Welcome and Where to Follow 01:15 Retreat Story Mental Load Misfire 04:56 Intent vs Impact in Bids 06:08 Attack Surface and Pathological Kindness 09:37 Sequencing the Conversation 12:26 Stealing Thunder Named 17:02 Catching the Thunder Grab 18:17 Drive By Empathy Metaphor 21:03 Empathy vs Sympathy Basics 22:36 Why Optimism Can Dismiss 24:02 What Empathy Actually Does 26:58 Real Life Fixing Examples 28:39 Spotting the Empathy Dash 29:30 Why We Do It 30:12 Adaptive Child Origins 31:39 Fixer vs Avoider Examples 33:49 Co-Regulation Explained 34:44 Two Ways to Respond 37:16 Four Pillars Framework 38:11 Questions Before Comments 38:58 Curiosity in Action 42:19 Three Before One Rule 45:40 When Effort Feels Unseen 47:35 Handling Your Triggers 49:27 Closing Encouragement Get on the waitlist today for Tony's upcoming Magnetic Marriage live course! Head to https://tonyoverbay.com/magnetic Contact Tony at contact@tonyoverbay.com to learn more about his Emotional Architects men's group.

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0:00.0

Welcome to the virtual couch. Please take a seat for pillars. Emotional maturity. They're

0:09.0

self-worth run so deep. You are not broken. You're a human. So check that out. You don't know.

0:18.1

What you don't know is what it's all about.

0:21.6

Everybody, welcome to another episode of the virtual couch.

0:24.3

I am your host, Tony Overbay.

0:25.4

I'm a licensed marriage and family therapist, certified mindful habit coach,

0:28.1

rider, speaker, husband, father, four, and host of the waking up to narcissism podcast as well.

0:32.9

Follow me on the social media platforms of your choice at TikTok at virtual couch,

0:38.2

Instagram at virtual dot couch, Facebook, Tony Overbay licensed, marriage and family

0:42.3

therapist, substack, where there's a lot of content.

0:45.3

It's the old-fashioned way.

0:46.3

You can read it.

0:47.0

You don't even have to watch anything or listen to anything.

0:49.5

And there are articles of all sorts of lengths.

0:52.4

And it's usually about the podcast that has come out that week or maybe some other things as well.

0:56.5

And that's substack.com slash the virtual couch, I believe.

1:00.3

But I'm sure you can find it if you give it a good search.

1:02.5

And my magnetic marriage course, the waiting period is now on.

1:07.7

You can go get on the wait list at tonyoverbay.com slash magnetic and we will probably talk a little bit

1:14.1

more about that today, some of the concepts that I'm going to get to eventually. Today is a fun topic.

1:19.7

It is based on a little bit of an aha that I had at a men's retreat that I was participating in as a

1:26.7

presenter with my good friend, Craig

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