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The Political Scene | The New Yorker

Why Matt Gaetz Keeps Getting Away with It

The Political Scene | The New Yorker

The New Yorker

Lizza, Obama, Wickenden, Wnyc, News, Politics, Washington, President, Barack

4.33.9K Ratings

🗓️ 22 February 2024

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Representative Matt Gaetz is one of the most outspoken critics of the status quo in Washington, which he demonstrated most recently by playing a key role in removing fellow-Republican Kevin McCarthy as Speaker of the House. How was Gaetz able to pull off such a feat given his deep unpopularity in Congress, and the fact that he’s under a House Ethics Committee investigation for the sex trafficking of a minor? The New Yorker staff writer Dexter Filkins, who recently profiled Gaetz in the magazine, joins Tyler Foggatt to explore the congressman’s motivations, including how fractured party politics have played a role in his rise to fame. “The party has to decide what it is,” Filkins says. “It’s not what it used to be, and it’s rapidly becoming something else. . . . In the interregnum, we’re seeing all these morbid symptoms as the party kind of convulses and tries to figure out its new identity.”

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More than a couple of people said to me, he's the most unpopular member of Congress.

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And yet, he just almost single-handedly, not quite, but almost single-handedly succeeded in

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removing the House Speaker. And so it's kind of a paradox, you know, like how, how is it possible

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that somebody this unpopular is able to pull

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off something like that?

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That's my colleague Dexter Filkins.

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Dexter has spent months digging into Florida Congressman Matt Gates, who has become one of the

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Republican Party's rising stars, even as he threatens to break the party apart.

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I asked Dexter to come on the show to tell us more about Gates' rise to power and about what actually motivates him, aside from just creating chaos.

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This is the political scene. I'm Tyler Foggett, and I'm a senior editor at The New Yorker.

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So, Dexter, you often report on conflicts overseas, but you were also raised in Florida,

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