Let's talk with Marissa Meyer, the longtime Google executive and former Yahoo CEO,

about whether new consumer technology stands a chance and where the AI race goes next.

That's coming up right after this.

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wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to Big Technology Podcast, a show for cool-headed,

nuanced conversation of the tech world and beyond. Marissa Meyer is here. She's the co-founder

and CEO of Sunshine, and before that was Google employee number 20,

holding an array of executive positions there for 13 years before becoming the president and CEO

of Yahoo. Now at Sunshine, she has a new contacts app, a new photo sharing app, and more, and she's

here to talk all about that and plenty more with us today marissa welcome to the

show thank you so much for having me thanks for being here you know you're making a bold bet

introducing apps in the consumer space where so many venture capitalist and founders seem to have

written off the space entirely let me just read you uh what m.G. Siegler, who's a venture partner at

GV, which is formerly Google Ventures, and one of my must read says about consumer products today.

And I think the folly of starting them. And I would love to get you to respond to that.

So M.G says it really just boils down to time. We all have the apps and services we use on a daily basis.

Once one is lodged in that cycle, it's extremely hard to dislodge both because of habits

and for social apps network effects.

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