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Why mapping the entire seafloor is a daunting task, but key to improving human life

Short Wave

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🗓️ 18 August 2025

⏱️ 14 minutes

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Summary

Scientists have mapped less than 30% of the world's seafloor. Experts say that getting that number up to 100% would improve everything from tsunami warnings to the Internet and renewable energy. That's why there's currently a global effort to create a full, detailed map of the seabed by 2030. On today's Sea Camp episode, we talk to Dawn Wright, a marine geographer and chief scientist at the Environmental Systems Research Institute (Esri) about this effort.

 

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0:00.0

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0:07.9

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0:23.5

Hey, shortwavers, Emily Kwong here and Regina Barber back with our next installment of our summer sea camp series.

0:30.2

I love this series. It's been so fun. It has been. Where are we going today?

0:35.2

Rock bottom, Emily. rock bottom. Oh.

0:39.9

We're in the Hidal zone.

0:44.2

The deepest zone that we are aware of.

0:50.8

People also refer to it is the trenches, and there aren't a lot of these places in the oceans.

0:52.3

That's Noel Boland.

0:55.4

She's our go-to marine biologist from the National Oceanic and atmospheric administration. And she says the Hidal Zone is any area 6,000 meters below sea level and deeper.

1:02.2

How deep does it go? Yeah, the depths of the trenches can vary, but the deepest one, the Mariana

1:07.6

trench, is almost 11,000 meters or nearly seven miles deep. That's very far. I've heard of the Mariana Trench is almost 11,000 meters or nearly seven miles deep.

1:12.6

That's very far. I've heard of the Mariana Trench, but now that I imagine my seven

1:17.0

mile run downwards, that's quite deep. Yeah, I do not think I've ever run that far, but I want to.

1:23.8

It makes sense that this is a really tough place to study, let alone get humans down there.

1:29.5

But we're going down there today?

1:31.4

Yes, by hearing from Don Wright, one of less than 30 people who visited the deepest point in the Mariana Trench, a place known as Challenger Deep.

1:40.2

Let's go.

1:43.9

Descending in a submersible is not unlike being in a space capsule in many ways.

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