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Why MAGA is all in on Iran

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🗓️ 10 March 2026

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Summary

As the war with Iran continues, we look at the potential risks of an attack by Iran on U.S. soil. Phil Mudd, former deputy director of the CIA’s Counterterrorist Center and the FBI's National Security Branch, joins us. 

Then, Republican foreign policy and politics expert Colin Dueck talks about why many of President Trump's Make America Great Again supporters back the war in Iran. 

And, this weekend, two desalination plants came under attack in Iran and Bahrain. Georgetown University professor Marcus King explains why this technology is so vital for the arid Middle East and the precedent these attacks set in future conflicts.

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0:00.0

WBUR Podcasts, Boston.

0:07.6

We've already won in many ways, but we haven't won enough.

0:12.7

It kind of gives a whole new meaning to the phrase,

0:15.4

there are no winners in war.

0:31.4

It's Tuesday, March 10th, and this is here and now anytime from NPR and WVR.

0:32.4

I'm Chris Bentley.

0:42.7

Today on the show, why are some America First voters suddenly okay with military adventurism?

0:50.3

This is the sort of the use of force that Trump supporters can accept and even support, particularly because it's him.

0:55.3

In other words, they trust his instincts, they trust his judgment, and so they're willing to back him, at least for now.

1:08.0

Also, traders and politicians have been fretting over the rise in cost of oil, but the war in the Middle East has also targeted infrastructure for an even more precious resource, water.

1:14.3

Some Gulf countries actually rely on desalination for 70 to 90% of their drinking water.

1:16.3

That story coming up at about 10 minutes.

1:23.8

But first, the U.S. and Israel's decision to attack Iran has set off a regional conflict involving several countries and roiled the global economy. It's fair for some Americans

1:29.6

to worry about the possibility for an attack on U.S. soil, but how concerned should they be?

1:36.6

We asked Phil Mudd, a former deputy director of the CIA's counterterrorist center and the FBI's

1:42.2

national security branch. He spoke to Robin Young.

1:45.8

Just go there. What are your concerns? Well, I'm watching a couple things. Number one is we're

1:51.0

already seeing signs of radicalization of people who don't necessarily have connections with

1:55.9

a known terrorist but might simply be radicalized because they saw something, maybe a civilian

2:01.0

casualty online. So, for example, the attack on the Mamdani residents in New York the other day,

2:05.6

that's a red flag. So that's one piece. The other thing I'm watching is time. The pace of radicalization

2:11.9

that I witnessed when I was at the FBI is rapid. You're talking about the space of weeks for

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