Why losing trust in expertise threatens democracy
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USA TODAY
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🗓️ 2 January 2026
⏱️ 11 minutes
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From “follow the science” during COVID to universities accused of activism, the gap between experts and the public is widening. Roger Pielke Jr. explains why expertise doesn’t just mean a PhD, how media silos deepen divides, and why experts must serve all Americans — not just those who share their politics. (This episode originally aired on September 18, 2025.)
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| 0:00.0 | For dry January, we decided to look back at one of our most talked about episodes last year |
| 0:07.6 | on the growing popularity of cannabis drinks. |
| 0:10.1 | Hello and welcome to USA Today's The Exert. |
| 0:12.3 | I'm Dana Taylor. |
| 0:13.3 | This episode originally aired on March 5th, 2025. |
| 0:17.2 | New beverage has been showing up in bars and on store shelves. |
| 0:20.6 | The cannabis drink, a hemp-derived drink that contains CBD and oftentimes THC as well. |
| 0:27.2 | They're marketed as providing a buzz without the downside of a hangover. |
| 0:31.8 | But are there drawbacks? |
| 0:33.4 | And could these drinks ever replace alcohol? |
| 0:36.1 | We're now joined by Stacey Gruber, |
| 0:37.7 | director of the Marijuana Investigations |
| 0:40.5 | for Neuroscientific Discovery Program |
| 0:42.5 | and Associate Professor of Psychiatry |
| 0:44.9 | at Harvard Medical School to answer these |
| 0:47.1 | and other questions about this new trend. |
| 0:50.0 | Thanks for joining me, Stacey. |
| 0:51.6 | Thanks so much for having me. |
| 0:52.6 | First, before we compare CBD and THC, how do hemp-derived cannabis drinks affect people? |
| 1:00.0 | And what are some of the adverse effects? |
| 1:02.0 | People are generally looking for something to, quote, take the edge off or to be sort of more relaxed in social settings, and these products are incredibly popular, as you know. |
| 1:12.1 | Hemp-derived products versus cannabis-derived products aren't all that different other than, you know, |
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