I think owning the infrastructure is akin to owning the gene manufacturers and the manufactured

picks and shovels 300 years ago during the gold rush. I don't care. BTC doesn't move at all

between now and December. I'm still making money mining and being a shareholder in exchanges.

Hello, everyone. This is your markets outlook on CoinDesk. I'm your host, Jen Sanasi. Our guest

today is Mr. Wonderful Shark Tank Investor and chairman of O'Leary Ventures, Kevin O'Leary.

Welcome back to the show. Great to be here. Thank you. Great to have you. We are kicking

off the week here. Talk to me about what you're watching in the markets this morning.

Well, I'm obviously intrigued by the pace at which Tripto is being adopted, both domestically and

internationally, and around the tonality of regulation. I think that is really spurring all of this

on. Obviously, since you and I last talked, went through the Genius Act, and that has been a success,

released stable coins in the market, and they've been well received. And now we have the Clarity Act,

which is really the Infrastructure Act, which will give

us more guidance institutionally on where we're going to go with Granddaddy, Bitcoin, of course,

Ethereum has had a pretty good move up late. Salon is getting traction. So what I would call

putting Wall Street on chain is the next theme.

And there's a lot of derivatives to that, but the market tone is now from one of a more

punitive regulatory environment, which you saw just 18 months ago, to where we're now

seeing a remarkable wound activity, both domestically and and internationally around where crypto fits and digital payment systems and be for an alternative asset class.

And so that's a lot of change in a very short period of time.

Kevin, a lot that I want to unpack there with you.

But you outlined a lot of great milestones,

a lot of milestones this industry was waiting for for a very long time. We of course saw Bitcoin

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