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Bold Names

Why José Andrés Says We Need Leaders Who Believe in ‘Longer Tables’

Bold Names

The Wall Street Journal

Technology

4.41.4K Ratings

🗓️ 9 July 2025

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

José Andrés knows what it’s like to work under pressure. From managing the chaos of restaurant kitchens, to running a global business empire, to helping feed people in disaster zones, the celebrity chef doesn’t like to sit still, especially when it comes to food. On a special bonus episode of the Bold Names podcast, Andrés speaks to WSJ’s Christopher Mims and Tim Higgins about his new book, why he’s investing in lab-grown meat and his belief that good meals and “longer tables” are the cure for what ails us.   Check Out Past Episodes: Booz Allen CEO on Silicon Valley’s Turn to Defense Tech: ‘We Need Everybody.’ This CEO Says Global Trade Is Broken. What Comes Next? How Zipline’s Drones Are Taking Off in the U.S. and Rivaling Amazon What This Former USAID Head Had to Say About Elon Musk and DOGE Let us know what you think of the show. Email us at [email protected] Sign up for the WSJ's free Technology newsletter. Read Christopher Mims’s Keywords column. Read Tim Higgins’s column. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

I had the absolute pleasure of speaking to Pamela Anderson.

0:04.2

All thanks to the Dove Self-Eesteem Project.

0:07.1

We speak about the impact Y2K has had on women's body confidence and how Pamela has regained control.

0:12.9

The Dove Self-Esteen project is an amazing initiative supported by science-backed methodology

0:17.8

to help us improve our relationship with our bodies.

0:20.8

To find more body confidence-building exercises, go to dove.com forward slash Y2K.

0:26.5

That's Y2K-Selt W-H-Y2K.

0:30.3

Hey, Mims, we've got something special today.

0:33.4

It's a bonus episode.

0:35.3

We've got a guest who maybe is not traditional for us, but I think is a bold name, nevertheless.

0:41.1

Hmm. Bill Nye, the science guy? No, we got somebody from your neck of the woods, celebrity chef, Jose Andres, who's going to talk to us about what it's like to make food in outer space, how he is doing things in the diplomatic world, and his new book.

0:57.0

Incredible. Any friend of Martha Stewart's is a friend of mine. That's next.

1:04.8

Jose Andres is a bold name in both culinary and diplomatic circles.

1:18.4

The famous restaurateur built an empire from a tapest place in Washington, then pivoted to apply his culinary skills to disaster zones.

1:21.7

15 years ago, he founded World Central Kitchen, an organization that rushes into chaos to help feed survivors.

1:29.5

Now, he has a new book about his life called Change the Recipe, and he tells us that he thinks

1:36.2

food is the cure for what ails us all.

1:39.9

We need leaders that believe in that, that believe in longer tables. It's so simple to invest in peace.

1:46.0

It's so simple to invest in a better tomorrow.

1:50.0

Andre says the kitchen is a good place to learn how to deal with drama,

1:53.0

because there's no shortage of unexpected problems and last-minute emergencies.

1:58.0

That's why restaurant business is so good for getting no only chefs, but anybody

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