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This is Recode Media with Peter Kafka.

That is me.

I'm part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.

I have a very special guest here today.

My old friend, Jesse Hempel,

who I think of is one of my favorite writers. I still think of her that way, but now I have to think special guest here today. My old friend, Jesse Hempel, who I think of as one of my favorite writers.

I still think of her that way, but now I have to think of her as senior editor at large at LinkedIn. She's going to explain what that means. Hi, Jesse. Hi, Peter. Thank you for having me. You kind of have to say that because I'm currently the writer in the room with you. Yeah. But you are one of my favorite writers. Well, thank you for. It's a true thing.

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