Why James White is Not Willing to Engage on Matthew 23:37
Soteriology 101 w/ Dr. Leighton Flowers
Leighton Flowers
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🗓️ 14 July 2025
⏱️ 102 minutes
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Summary
James White recently confronted Leighton on Twitter about Matthew 23:37 and today we will walk through the actual points of contention and discover why we believe Dr. White refuses to engage me on this topic.
Videos relevant to this ongoing discussion:
https://www.youtube.com/live/OKv-6965tdM?si=zD17CPT0YvOueZRG
https://www.youtube.com/live/nF4LuukkCZo?si=g_N2bvAywIRraAwn
White's original video:
https://www.youtube.com/live/nF4LuukkCZo?si=g_N2bvAywIRraAwn
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome back to Sochiology 101. |
| 0:13.0 | Yes, we're starting earlier than announced. |
| 0:15.5 | That's because I wanted to give some background to a little bit of this discussion before |
| 0:20.7 | we launch at 1 o'clock, |
| 0:22.2 | talking about the new material that White just released on a dividing line program a couple weeks ago, |
| 0:27.0 | confronting the issue of Matthew 2337, which we've gone back and forth on over the years. |
| 0:34.1 | Just to give you a little bit of feedback to understand the background of this back and forth is that historically Calvinists have taken different approaches to dealing with Matthew 2337. |
| 0:46.3 | And 1 Timothy 2, 2, Peter, 3,9, those passages that talk about God willing for this to happen, God wanting for the |
| 0:55.4 | salvation of people, and it doesn't happen. The way that some higher Calvinists, it's usually what |
| 1:01.9 | to refer to as, try to remove the universal love, the universal desire by explaining those texts |
| 1:10.0 | exegedically in a way to say that he doesn't really want |
| 1:13.2 | all to be saved he wants all sorts to be saved we even read from uh you know spurgeon talking about |
| 1:19.9 | how that's putting dynamite to the text and he knows about that old high calvinistic way of getting |
| 1:24.2 | rid of the alls of scripture but it he refuses to do that. And so lower |
| 1:29.4 | Calvinist, if you want to call them that, John Piper and some of the others, MacArthur's the same way, |
| 1:34.1 | where they'll take the two perspectives or two wills of God approach, where they'll say, no, no, |
| 1:38.5 | God universally expresses a desire for all to be saved, genuinely wants all to be saved. |
| 1:44.3 | But his prescriptive will is different than his decreative will. |
| 1:47.9 | Decreatively, he's only, he only has a desire for the salvation of the elect. |
| 1:53.6 | And he actually is decreed for the others, the reprobates, the non-elect, to be born in |
| 1:58.7 | such a condition that they can't desire. |
| 2:00.5 | They don't want |
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