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The Happiness Lab with Dr. Laurie Santos

Why It's So Hard to Stop Intrusive Thoughts—And What Actually Helps

The Happiness Lab with Dr. Laurie Santos

Pushkin Industries

Society & Culture, Health & Fitness

4.714.8K Ratings

🗓️ 22 October 2019

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

How many times have you tried to suppress an unwanted thought, only to ruminate on it even more? Research shows that the brain reacts to attempts at thought suppression by repeatedly checking for the thought, making it stronger and increasing our distress. Dr. Laurie explains why our minds work in this paradoxical way—and explores the science behind intrusive thoughts, bad memories, and mental control. Through stories of real people who have confronted and overcome disruptive thoughts, she shares how acceptance, attention shifts, and self-compassion can lead to less stress and greater happiness.

Experts Mentioned:
- Daniel Wegner, Professor of Psychology, Harvard University
- Eve Ekman, Senior Fellow, Greater Good Science Center
- James Pennebaker, Professor Emeritus of Psychology, University of Texas Austin
- James Gross, Ernest R. Hilgard Professor of Psychology, Stanford University

Resources Mentioned
- "When the Antidote is the Poison: Ironic Mental Control Processes," (Psychological Science, 1997)
- "Paradoxical Effects of Thought Suppression," (Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 1987)
- "The Putt and the Pendulum: Ironic Effects of the Mental Control of Action" (Psychological Science, 1998)
- The Eichmann Trial
- "Disclosure of Traumas and Health Among Holocaust Survivors," (Psychosomatic Medicine, 1989)
- Opening Up: The Healing Power of Expressing Emotions by James Pennebaker (1997)
- "Antecedent- and Response-Focused Emotion Regulation: Divergent Consequences for Experience, Expression, and Physiology," (Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 1998)
- "Delayed Costs of Suppressed Pain," (Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 1993)
- "Not in Front of the Kids: Effects of Parental Suppression on Socialization Behaviors During Cooperative Parent–Child Interactions," (Emotion, 2019)
- "The Four Noble Truths," (BBC, 2009)

Related episodes of "The Happiness Lab":
- "Q: 'How Do I Stop Negative Self-Talk?' (with Ethan Kross)"
- "Emotions Are Data…So Listen to Them"
- "Hack Your Emotions (with Ethan Kross)"
- "How to Handle Change"
- "How to Fight Perfectionism"

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Pushkin

0:13.0

Back in 1863, the Russian novelist Dostoevsky gave his readers a challenge.

0:18.0

One which I'm going to argue has a huge impact on happiness.

0:23.0

Tried to pose for yourself this task he wrote, not to think of a polar bear.

0:28.0

So for the next few seconds, let's do it. Let's not think of a white bear.

0:32.0

Ready? Go!

0:40.0

How'd you do? My guess is that even though you were trying not to think of a white bear,

0:45.0

your mind immediately went to thoughts of a white bear.

0:48.0

That's what Dostoevsky realized. He warned that when you try not to think of something,

0:53.0

you will see that cursed thing come to mind every minute.

0:57.0

The Harvard psychologist, Den Wagner, was interested in these effects,

1:01.0

which he referred to as ironic processes. Cases were our minds, ironically enough,

1:06.0

go to the exact place where we don't want them to go.

1:10.0

Wagner created a version of Dostoevsky's polar bear challenge as an experiment with college students.

1:15.0

He asked them to speak their stream of consciousness for five minutes.

1:19.0

Living with five boyfriend right now, so I didn't have to...

1:23.0

That sunburn. And I didn't want to be out in the sun.

1:27.0

Really quiet in this room, which freaks me out a little bit.

1:31.0

Next, he asked them to repeat the task, but explicitly tells them not to think of a white bear.

1:37.0

If the bear does pop into their minds while babbling...

1:40.0

You have to bring the bell.

1:42.0

I asked my students to repeat the experiment.

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