Don't hold anything too tightly. Just wish for it, want it, let it come from the

intention of real truth for you, and then let it go. For me our soul is like it's

unbound, it's limitless, but we will use words to limit ourselves. When people

stop believing that somebody's got your back or Superman's coming, we turn to

ourselves and that's where you become empowered. Courageous participation attracts

positive things. I'm Gwyneth Paltrow. This is the Goop podcast, bringing together

thought leaders, culture changers, creatives, founders and CEOs, scientists,

doctors, healers and seekers, here to start conversations, because simply asking

questions and listening has the power to change the way we see the world.

Today is no exception. I'll let Elise fill you in on her extraordinary guest.

Alright, over to Elise. Daniel Lieberman is a professor of human

evolutionary biology at Harvard University, a pioneering researcher on the evolution

of human physical activity, and the author of a fascinating new book called Exercise,

Why Something We Never Evolved to Do is Healthy and Rewarding. Today we talk about why it's

so very natural to dislike exercise, even though it's good for us. Lieberman explains how the

instinct to avoid it is normal, which to be honest I found very validating. He also shares some

ways we can be more compassionate to that voice in our head, badgering us to work out more.

He explains some of the conflicting information around how exercise and diet interact,

and we talk about different social motivators that help get people out the door. We also talk

about why there is no universal prescription and how much exercise a person should get,

despite how we've been inclined to medicalize it in the culture. He offers one simple but profound

truth instead. Some is always better than none, even if that some is very little, and it's never too

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