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Brian Lehrer: A Daily Politics Podcast

Why It Might Matter If We Label Trump A Fascist

Brian Lehrer: A Daily Politics Podcast

WNYC Studios

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4.4676 Ratings

🗓️ 2 April 2024

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

As Donald Trump's rhetoric grows increasingly more inflammatory, debate surrounding whether or not to use the label 'fascist' heats up as well.

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0:00.0

from WNYC studios. I'm Brian Lehrer. This is my daily politics podcast. It's Tuesday, April 2nd.

0:14.7

If you haven't heard yet, the first criminal trial of Donald Trump will actually begin now

0:19.8

in less than two weeks and right here in New York.

0:22.8

It's the so-called Stormy Daniels hush money case.

0:25.5

But remember, the alleged crime is not paying the hush money itself.

0:30.0

It wasn't a crime to pay the porn star to stop saying they had an affair.

0:34.5

The alleged crime was falsifying business records to cover up the

0:39.3

hush money payments during the 2016 presidential election. Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg is

0:44.9

charging that Trump basically made an illegal campaign donation to himself by paying out that

0:51.6

money but not reporting it as campaign spending. Instead, Trump arranged for his

0:56.5

attorney, Michael Cohen, to write the checks to Stormy Daniels, and Trump reimburse Cohen as if for

1:03.1

routine business expenses. So that's the actual case, right? Jury selection is scheduled to begin

1:09.2

two weeks from yesterday, Monday, April 15th.

1:13.4

But there's now a case within the case that is arguably much more serious than allegedly hiding campaign spending.

1:21.9

The judge in the case, Juan Mershan, felt compelled yesterday to expand a gag order on Trump to include verbal or

1:30.6

printed attacks on family members of witnesses and justice system personnel because Trump had

1:37.2

been attacking the judge's own daughter in social media posts and things for being connected

1:43.2

with a company that helps Democrats win

1:45.2

elections. Judge Mershahn wrote this in yesterday's order. Quote, the average observer must now,

1:52.3

after hearing defendants' recent attacks, draw the conclusion that if they become involved in

1:58.3

these proceedings, even tangentially, they should worry not only for

2:02.0

themselves, but their loved ones. Such concerns will undoubtedly interfere with the fair administration

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