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The Indicator from Planet Money

Why isn’t corporate America standing up to Trump?

The Indicator from Planet Money

NPR

Business

4.79.5K Ratings

🗓️ 28 January 2026

⏱️ 8 minutes

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Summary

President Trump has been storming through corporate America — taking a stake in Intel, demanding a cut of Nvidia’s sales, restricting skilled workers, among other big footed policies.

Meanwhile, corporate leaders have mostly just … rolled over.

Today on the show: As Trump rewrites the rules of doing business, why aren’t business leaders doing more to speak up?

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0:00.0

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0:02.0

President Trump has spent his first year back in office blurring the lines between business and government and creating a lot of headaches for business leaders.

0:20.0

His trade war and his immigration

0:22.3

policies are adding costs. He's demanding a government cut of some of Nvidia's sales in China

0:29.0

and an outright government stake in Intel. He wants to cap how much interest credit card companies

0:35.6

charge their customers and how much defense companies

0:38.9

pay their CEOs. We just did an episode on that. He's also being kind of a bully about everything.

0:45.2

Last week, he even sued J.P. Morkin Chase and its powerful chief executive, Jamie Diamond.

0:50.0

But as the president goes storming through corporate America, business leaders aren't exactly mounting a strong defense.

0:58.0

Billionaires and big tech CEOs are publicly competing to kiss Trump's ring.

1:03.3

Well, almost everyone else seems afraid to stand up for their companies.

1:07.1

Or the broader U.S. system of free market capitalism.

1:12.4

This is the indicator from Planet Money.

1:14.9

I'm your non-billionaire host, Waylon Wong,

1:17.0

and my co-host today is NPR financial correspondent Maria Aspen.

1:21.5

Also not a billionaire.

1:22.7

Maria, you have spent the last year covering how corporate America has responded

1:26.8

to President Trump's extremely, let's say, disruptive second term.

1:31.5

Yes, I have. Today on the show, as Trump, even by the standards of Trump's second term.

1:54.6

It started with the U.S. attack on Venezuela and Trump pressuring U.S. oil companies to invest there

2:00.2

and then sniping at ExxonMobil after its CEO called the country uninvestable.

2:05.3

Then last week, Trump went to the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland.

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