Why Is Trump Trying To Purge Thomas Massie?
The Reason Roundtable
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🗓️ 18 May 2026
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| 0:00.0 | Kentucky Congressman Thomas Massey wants to end the war in Iran, release the Epstein files, |
| 0:05.5 | and balance the budget, eliminate the national debt. |
| 0:10.1 | But he is now facing a primary challenge backed by none other than Donald Trump. |
| 0:16.1 | So how did he become Donald Trump's enemy number one? |
| 0:20.0 | What does this mean for the future of the Republican Party? |
| 0:22.4 | And what, if anything, does all of this have to do with Ron Paul? Welcome to the Reason Roundtable. |
| 0:30.2 | This is your Libertarian Review of News and Culture from the editors of Reason Magazine and friends. |
| 0:35.0 | I'm your host, Peter Souterman. And today I am joined by my colleagues |
| 0:38.2 | Catherine Mangu Ward, Matt Welch, and Robbie Suave. Catherine, I want to start with you because you |
| 0:43.3 | wrote a great piece about Thomas Massey for The New York Times. You spent some time with him. |
| 0:47.7 | Sorry, I wrote The New York Times' endorsement of Tom and Thomas Massey. Yes, I've heard that. |
| 0:52.8 | Yeah. So just to be clear, that was not actually. |
| 0:55.2 | It was not. It was an opinion piece. It wasn't even, it wasn't even reason endorsing. We don't do that |
| 0:59.9 | because we don't do that here. Right. So one of the things you wrote about him that I thought was |
| 1:04.2 | interesting is that Trump calls Massey disloyal to America. |
| 1:12.5 | But your argument is the Republican Party |
| 1:14.4 | actually needs a lot more people like Thomas Massey. |
| 1:17.7 | Yeah, so I mean, I wanna start by saying, |
| 1:20.3 | Mangy Ward's Law, if there is such a thing, |
| 1:22.7 | applies here, and that is all politicians are garbage |
| 1:25.7 | and will disappoint you in the end. |
| 1:26.7 | So I really like Thomas Massey. |
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