From WNYC Studios. I'm Brian Lehrer. This is my daily politics podcast. It's Wednesday, April 1st.

All right, this new executive order from President Trump restricting mail and voting. As the Washington Post describes it,

the order directs the U.S. Postal Service to send ballots only to voters who appear on a list of

citizens to be compiled by the Department of Homeland Security with the assistance of the Social Security

administration. The order also specifies what types of secure envelopes are to be used for mail ballots, unquote from the Washington Post.

Jonathan Lemire is here, co-host of Morning Joe on MS Now, staff writer for the Atlantic, and author of the book, The Big Lot.

Hey, Jonathan, we're always appreciative that you segue right from hosting the 9 o'clock hour

of morning, Joe, to come on with us from time to time.

Welcome back to WNYC.

I'm always glad to be here, and it's certainly going to be a consequential and very busy day.

Jonathan, this seems like a fairly complicated way to go about this.

The post office has to do something.

The Social Security Administration has to do something.

The Department of Homeland Security has to do something.

Do we know how DHS would compile a list of eligible voters that the post office would then

screen the mail in envelopes for?

We don't know much the way of details yet, Brian, the president signed this executive order yesterday,

but we do know that two states have already filed suit or their intention to file suit

challenging this executive order. others are expected to follow

their lead. In fact, on the show in the 9 o'clock hour, we have the Secretary of State for the

State of Colorado, Jenna Griswold on, and she made clear that they would be party to this.

And she underscored what other legal experts have done since the moment Trump signed this

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