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Why Is The Government Looking To Denmark For Immigration Inspiration?

Newscast

BBC

Politics, News

4.46.4K Ratings

🗓️ 8 November 2025

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

​​Today, the BBC announced that Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood is to unveil a major shake-up of the immigration and asylum system modelled on the Danish system, which is seen as one of the toughest in Europe. ​​ ​​Political correspondent Iain Watson joins Laura and Adam in the studio to tell them about his trip to Denmark where he’s been speaking to the people responsible for, and affected by, those reforms. ​​ ​​Also, Laura has interviewed the mother who is taking legal action against the company behind a chat bot which, she says, encouraged her 14 year old son to take his own life. We discuss some of the implications that AI could have for vulnerable people in the future, and how politicians might handle it. ​​ ​​You can now listen to Newscast on a smart speaker. If you want to listen, just say "Ask BBC Sounds to play Newscast”. It works on most smart speakers. ​​ ​​You can join our Newscast online community here: https://bbc.in/newscastdiscord ​​ ​​Get in touch with Newscast by emailing [email protected] or send us a WhatsApp on +44 0330 123 9480. ​​ ​​New episodes released every day. If you're in the UK, for more News and Current Affairs podcasts from the BBC, listen on BBC Sounds: https://bbc.in/4guXgXd ​​ ​​Newscast brings you daily analysis of the latest political news stories from the BBC. The presenters were Laura Kuenssberg and Adam Fleming. It was made by Chris Flynn with Rufus Gray. The social producer was Gabriel Purcell-Davis. The technical producer was Mike Regaard. The weekend series producer is Chris Flynn. The assistant editor is Chris Gray. The senior news editor is Sam Bonham.

Transcript

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0:00.0

BBC Sounds, Music, Radio Podcasts.

0:06.3

Reunited, Adam Fleming.

0:07.9

Hello, are you going to play that song in a tiny way on your...

0:10.2

No, don't.

0:10.7

No, because I did it before and it was cute, but I don't think I need to do it again.

0:14.6

So people have got higher expectations of sound quality since when we started doing this in the old days.

0:19.7

Do they? Do they? Really? Because of fancy headphones and things. Most importantly, have you signed up to be part of the 25-hour podcast athon? So on Friday when it's happening, Thursday and Friday, on Friday morning when I've been kindly invited to come on, I will probably be doing some filming somewhere in a windy place, but I'm going to try.

0:37.6

And it might even bring some more intrigue if I'm like trying to get through on the phone. And it's not working. That would be standard, wouldn't it? Is this a secret location you're filming at? Is that what you're not saying? I'm not, well, yeah, I'm just not going to say where it is because it might not come off. Oh, okay. So if I hear from you and you're in a very quiet, non-windy place, it's not happening.

0:56.1

Yes.

0:56.7

And I might even be here.

0:57.7

And then you go, lovely to see you. God, are you gutted that you filming didn't come on. So there we are. So yes, if people haven't realized what it is, tell them what madcap marathon you're embarking on. So two weeks ago, Pudsey Bear from Children in Need

1:11.5

came into this very studio. Handed me an envelope. I opened the envelope and it said, Pudsey and

1:17.1

Children in Need challenge you to a 25 hour long podcastathon. Can I ask why 25 hours? Because you

1:23.6

know it's 24 normally in a day. Because 25 is the theme of all the challenges for children in need this year. Ah, well, more fool me for not knowing that yet. I mean, I would have rather gone for 24. I'm honest. And so I thought, yeah, challenge accepted. But the whole gang's got to get involved because I can't just talk for 25 whole hours. Well, but I will come and try and help you wherever I am. I will definitely do my best,

1:46.8

but I don't quite know yet where I will be. Do you have any tips from election night?

1:50.4

Doing a marathon round? Oh, you know all my tips, don't you? Tea all night and then coffee

1:54.8

for the second half, dried fruit, chocolate and interesting things happening and interesting content.

2:01.2

Where might we get some of that?

2:03.5

Well, just from the news and from other newscasters.

2:06.1

And from newscasters.

2:07.0

So newscasters are sharing their stuff, aren't they?

2:09.3

Yeah, so basically what I've asked people to do so that I have a bit of company in the wee small hours is newscasters, we want you to send in your voice notes. And there's kind of three

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