I'm I'm In honor of recently reading our enemy the state and talking about it on air, I went to

George Ford Smith at Mises.org for his recent article called Knox War on the State.

By coincidence, just came out when we were finished this conversation,

and I thought, who better to talk to this, a subject about this subject with Ben George.

Hi, George. Thanks for being here.

It's a pleasure, Monica.

Thank you for inviting me.

So I loved your article.

It was spot on to what we'd been thinking about and talking about.

And I think it's a luxury sometimes to think about more abstract and philosophical things,

especially now since I reached out to you.

It looks like potentially World War III has started.

Or in any case, an unjust war. What wars are just? Very few, I think. Uh, if any. But anyway, that's what, that's the context of

where we are right now. And I thought, who better, you know, what these libertarian fundamentals,

such as knock speak to today in many ways economically domestically

foreign policy so do you agree what do you think oh yeah actually it was franz openheimer

or maybe even before him but it was open hire openheimer i guess you pronounce it yep who made the

this who came forth for the idea that the state is essentially a criminal organization. It functions by confiscating the produce of the working class, which is, and it made the distinction at political means and economic means.

And there's only two ways you can go about getting what you want.

And the state is monopolized of political means.

I can say a lot about Oppenheimer's influence, not just on knock, but on a man named

Levitt Earhart, Germany.

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