Hi, this is Natalie Hoffman of Flying Free Now.com, and you're listening to the

Flying Free Podcast, a support resource for Women of faith, looking for hope and healing from hidden

emotional and spiritual abuse.

Welcome to episode 36 of the flying free podcast. Rachel you're back with me this time.

Hi!

Good to be here.

Yeah, it's been a while. We've had a lot of guest interviews and so it's good to be back here with you and I thought it would be fun to, well not fun, but I thought it would be a good topic to talk about, we're calling this episode,

he loves me, he loves me not, because one of the most common issues that women in emotionally abusive

relationships have is trying to figure out is this really abuse is this

abusive and is it really that bad because sometimes my husband is

really wonderful and there's a lot of really wonderful qualities about him

which is the reason why I married him. And then at other times it seems

like it might be abusive, but don't all marriages have problems? I mean, you know, I mean, and I am not perfect either. Sometimes I have

problems. So what is it that makes, you know, how do you differentiate between a normal marriage with your garden variety arguments

and that kind of thing versus a marriage that actually you could define it as

being emotionally abusive. So that's what we're going to talk about today.

What do you think?

I think there's a lot to get to here.

I've got my flower ready, I'm going to pick off the pedal.

He loves me.

He loves me not.

That's what that makes me? Thank you. No, I already know the answer to that one. So yes. Okay. So, well and that is you know that is kind of how you feel. I think in a, in a, I think in a normal relationship,

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