Hey everybody it's Joe Trippy and welcome back to a special guest episode of that Trippy show.

For the next few Tuesday shows, we're going to be welcoming in our friends in critical

states to give us a deep dive update on what they're seeing.

So each week from here through election day on Tuesdays,

you know you want to listen to the deep dive this week Ohio.

Alex and I asked our old friends Chris Gibbs and David Pepper to come on.

David is the former chair of the Ohio Democratic Party.

You probably remember our chat with him about his book, Laboratories of Autocracy.

Highly recommend you read it.

And Chris Ran for Congress as an independent against Jim Jordan and really understands Ohio's elector,

especially with a candidate like Tim Ryan on the ballot and how to attract Republicans who are

fed up with MAGA to move across party lines.

I think Chris's perspective is critical.

Alex, where do you want to get started?

Well, I want to kick it to you guys first but really let's talk about the Senate

race I think that's what most of our listeners are going to be most interested in so

where do you guys see it right now obviously I think the last big reputable national poll was

Siena. I think it had Tim Ryan up 4643 on Vance but people are starting to say that it's

tightening.

What do you guys think?

Let me start, yeah, this Dave Pepper.

Yeah, I'd say that's probably the case.

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